ACitizenErased wrote: » Some on here absolutely beside themselves at the thought of no vaccine
dexter647 wrote: » As crazy and mad as it sounds some on here seem to want no vaccine and this absolute sh1te reality to continue indefinitely.....Mind boggling
ShineOn7 wrote: » That's not addressing what I asked. You may as well have answered "I like oranges on Tuesdays, thanks" for all the sense it made Again: have you a link to back up that every single pandemic lasts 3 years max? I'm hoping you're right, but you can't say something that big without sourcing it
Dionaibh wrote: » There is a vaccine in Russia. I'd take it. It's based on vaccines for MERS and Ebola that were worked on for 6 years.
CiarraiManc wrote: » I just believe it's healthier in the long run for people to come to terms with reality. There isn't going to be some magic fix to this. Our lives from now on are going to be very different to the way they were in February
CiarraiManc wrote: » Hopefully it won't cripple you for life like the Oxford one will
astrofool wrote: » Even with no vaccine, things would go back to normal within a couple of years, it would become another disease humans can get. With a vaccine, it will likely happen faster. Believing how humans live will drastically change is pie in the sky.
CiarraiManc wrote: » Take putins dodgy vaccine and see what happens to you. Hopefully it won't cripple you for life like the Oxford one will
CiarraiManc wrote: » These viruses will become more and more frequent and common due to human invasion of wildlife habitats. This'll be the first of a great many
CiarraiManc wrote: » Sorry if the dose of truth hurts. Weren't lads saying we could have been vaccinated by Christmas? How's that bit of science fiction working out?
El Sueño wrote: » Source? While you're at it have you managed to find the source for your claim that there have been dozens of reinfections or are you going to keep dodging people's requests for same?
CiarraiManc wrote: » The FDA certainly feel it's the casehttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/20/human-trials-oxford-vaccine-hold-us-spinal-cord-disease-fears/amp/
El Sueño wrote: » You're gonna be very upset when they resume the trials in the US Still waiting on the source for your reinfections claim btw
CiarraiManc wrote: » Thought I posted this earlierhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/17/nevada-reinfection-case-highlights-mysteries-covid-19
Micky 32 wrote: » Don’t be so lazy go research it yourself.
ShineOn7 wrote: » Very productive post You make a big claim with no source and then tell people that they're the lazy ones for not doing your research Outstanding stuff
irishgeo wrote: » Says the expert in vaccination trials.:rolleyes:
Thierry12 wrote: » Im right your wrong Everyone a virologist, when we are all just idiots reading off google
astrofool wrote: » Ah, I guess we haven't been invading many wildlife habitats for the last 300,000 years then.
Miike wrote: » As much as I hate to agree with a poster of that caliber; he's actually right on this one. Unless we fundamentally change the way we do agriculture, start enforcing and monitoring mass vaccinations of farm animals in countries with very loose regulations and stop encroaching into spaces to come in contact with animals humans don't necessarily live beside, this is going to become more and more frequent. This is wrote in the stones of epidemiology. There's an interesting book which touches on this and other factors if you're interested and it's totally geared towards 'the lay man'. The End of Epidemics by Dr. Johnathan D. Quick - I would highly recommend it if this sort of stuff interests you
JDD wrote: » I'm seriously thinking about becoming vegetarian since this all started. .
patnor1011 wrote: » And I think that we suffer from some god complex. What make you think that enforced and monitored mass vaccination of farm animals (and certainly humans too) worldwide will make any difference? Nature always find a way. Like it found a way with our obsession with cleanliness and hygiene by giving us huge increase of allergies. So we traded one evil for another. We should invest more in finding out how to improve our health by perhaps modifying our lifestyle or diet instead of looking for and waiting for some miracle jab or pill. There is no vaccine against something which does not exist yet. If nothing then our flu vaccination story is a prime example of how covid vaccination will look like. Pure lottery waiting if we get the strain right.
JDD wrote: » I'm seriously thinking about becoming vegetarian since this all started. Don't get me wrong, I believe in science, I will take the vaccine and I think animals should be vaccinated against known viruses, but lets fact it we always overestimate the risk of something that has already happened, and underestimate the risk of something that is yet to happen. So we can vaccinate animals all we want, but new viruses will still come. I've felt uncomfortable since March about the whole narrative of "oh them chinese and eating bats and dogs, if they stopped being so gross we wouldn't have these mass outbreaks". What's the difference between eating a bat and eating pigeon, or pig for that matter? There's nothing to say that the next pandemic won't be from a cow. I love rashers. And sausages. And a roast chicken. But absolutely everything that's happening in the world seems to be pointing towards how our consumption of animal products is destroying everything. Climate change, this pandemic, cancer from processed meats, etc. I just need to break this to my husband without being cast out Amish style.
