ExMachina1000 wrote: » Did we ever have a coronavirus vaccine before? No Did we try ? Yes That's my point and its true
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Do you know how many successful vaccines have been created for any coronavirus? Il give you a hint . It's less than 1
firemansam4 wrote: » So unless you or the other poster can provide solid evidence that there won't be by the end of next year never mind next decade as the other poster suggests, then all use are doing is posting negative rubbish without any substance to it.
smurfjed wrote: » How many of you would be willing to take the vaccine developed by Shinopharm and available in the UAE?
firemansam4 wrote: » Between this and the main thread your posts seem to come across as some of the most negative I've seen. I just really hope that you actually don't believe some of this stuff you post, for the sake of your own mental health.
Marhay70 wrote: » We didn't have a vaccine for Polio until we had one. We didn't have a vaccine for Smallpox until we had one We didn't have a vaccine for Measles until we had one. All of these, once devastating, diseases are now under control. We'll have a vaccine for Covid when we have one. That could be next week, next month next year, exactly as it was with the others at one time and I'm pretty sure there were the usual bullshi**ers and naysayers around while they were being developed too.
CiarraiManc wrote: » Well alright then genius, how come there isn't a HIV vaccine, or a cancer vaccine? Those have been around much longer than covid and nothing. I'll wait for your response
[Deleted User] wrote: » Serious?
CiarraiManc wrote: I'll worry about my mental health thanks, none of your business. I'm just accepting the situation for what it is rather than believing some magic vaccine is right around the corner.
kona wrote: » A cancer vaccine:rolleyes:
firemansam4 wrote: » "Magic vaccine" That tells me all I need to know where your coming from. How about instead of posting this negative nonsense you actually back it up with evidence? Trying to argue that a vaccine is unlikely because there are not vaccines for other diseases out there is not evidence in any way at all.
CiarraiManc wrote: I'm not disputing the possibility of a vaccine so much as the timeframe which is impossibly optimistic
Hardyn wrote: » This has been said several times before and it's not accurate. First of all we have developed coronavirus vaccines for animals. There are vaccines for cows, dogs and cats. Secondly most coronaviruses cause only mild symptoms so it makes little practical sense to invest so much time and money into making a vaccine for something that only causes issues for a tiny minority of people. An effort was made for SARS but the virus was eradicated so it became redundant. As for MERS that only causes about 200 cases per year in the Middle East so funding one is not a priority sadly. Incidentally some of the research for SARS and MERS has been reused in the creation of the current vaccine. Thirdly there are 7 coronaviruses know to infect humans. 6 of them have been discovered since 2002. Our knowledge of them is still relatively new.
CiarraiManc wrote: » What's the HPV vaccine then genius?
yosemitesam1 wrote: » Something that hasn't been questioned enough is what will the vaccine actually do. The cattle vaccine is used to give a boost of antibodies in colostrum, it does nothing to actually stop coronavirus being present in a population. We will most likely end up in a position where fit and healthy people are getting vaccinations that they don't really need, while the most at risk struggle to benefit much if at all. The at risk populations are also not going to get any worthwhile protection from the rest of the population being vaccinated as with other coronavirus vaccines, the vaccinated still possess the ability to carry/shed infective virus
Hmmzis wrote: » You raise an intersting point. What do the current animal CoV vaccines actually do?https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X20307994 I've read only the abstract at this point, but it's intersting to see researchers looking at this question as well. The first thing that pops out is the type employed - they're all inactivated with some adjuvants (Merck uses alum in their dog vaccines). Doesn't get any simpler than that. The biggest issues appear to be from CoVs that have fast antigen drift - they mutate away very quickly, so the vaccine makers have to keep playing catch-up all the time. The cat one needs work as well.
Thierry12 wrote: » Oxford one in big trouble Another case of transverse myelitis it seems Thats an extremely rare disease, 1400 cases a year in the US out of 300 million people Odds of that appearing twice in a phase 3 trial are astronomical, yet it happenedhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/20/human-trials-oxford-vaccine-hold-us-spinal-cord-disease-fears/amp/
El Sueño wrote: » There's absolutely nothing new in that article so maybe tone down the sensationalism a little bit
Thierry12 wrote: » 2 people of which are 2 british women, have got an extremely rare disease in a clinic trial for a vaccine How is that not nothing new? How is it sensationalism?
Thierry12 wrote: » 2 people of which are 2 british women, have got an extremely rare disease in a clinic trial for a vaccine
Thierry12 wrote: » How is that not nothing new?
Thierry12 wrote: » How is it sensationalism?
MerlinSouthDub wrote: » The 1st case was caused by MS.
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