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Details from the dail on the eCars €10,000,000 expansion programme.

The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2019-01-24/10/?fbclid=IwAR1eGLQjNFuywCoaB__FJADns7gNOD09DaR9XLueHAKZ8vljfd-kL-_LpDs

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the_amazing_raisin

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

3 now isn't it? Kilcullen, Galway Plaza, Portlaoise Plaza?

Still beyond ridiculous how slow it's happening though....

https://esb.ie/ecars/our-network/high-power-charging-hubs

So at least it's clear now their definition of a hub is 3 cars charging simultaneously.

By that logic they might as well install 100x 2kW outlets and they can say they've a 100 car charging hub :rolleyes:

Typical warping of the facts from the ESB

the_amazing_raisin

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Thread title needs updating...

eCars expansion 2019-2023

You've more confidence in the ESB than I do

AndyBoBandy

Thread title needs updating...

eCars expansion 2019-2023

ELM327

Anna needs to improve her english.

AndyBoBandy

You gotta love whoever proof reads their website!!

Below are come pictures of the fast chargers located in Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and Drogheda, Co. Louth.

ELM327

There are no hubs yet.

AndyBoBandy

Black_Knight wrote: »

There's 2 of the high powered stations now isn't there? Not defending the appalling rollout, but be nice if the facts were correct. It weakens her argument.

3 now isn't it? Kilcullen, Galway Plaza, Portlaoise Plaza?

Still beyond ridiculous how slow it's happening though....

Progress to date

Over 50 x 3-8 vehicle charging hubs

A number of charging hubs have already been deployed and can be found - between junction 2 and 3, Kilcullen, Co Kildare (M9), - Galway Plaza, Junction 6, Kiltullagh, Co Galway (M6) and - Portlaoise Plaza, junction 17, Portlaoise (M7/8). The charging configuration at these locations are 1x50kW and 1x150kW and capable of charging up to 3 vehicles simultaneously.

Further hub locations which are planned include:

• Kells, Co. Meath
• Monasterevin, Co Kildare
• Ballinalack, Co Westmeath (N4)
• Carrick on Shannon, Co Leitrim
• Lahey, Co Donegal

ESB is continuing to assess other suitable sites on motorways and national road networks, with the aim of delivering over fifty high power (50-150kW) charging hubs. These hubs can provide up to 100km of driving range in as little as six minutes. Final sites are based on a range of factors including current charge point usage, traffic volume, accessibility, amenities and grid capacity. More site locations will be announced in the coming months. The project will run until 2023.

https://esb.ie/ecars/our-network/high-power-charging-hubs

So at least it's clear now their definition of a hub is 3 cars charging simultaneously.

Black_Knight

Neworder79 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WhitmoreJen/status/1308705092011466753?s=20

There's 2 of the high powered stations now isn't there? Not defending the appalling rollout, but be nice if the facts were correct. It weakens her argument.

Neworder79

https://twitter.com/WhitmoreJen/status/1308705092011466753?s=20

Black_Knight

Black_Knight wrote: »

Nice job that 1 side is red already. I didn't check when I spotted it, but that's pretty laughable.

Re: Dingle. 2 weeks into the replacement charge point and they still haven't fixed it. :rolleyes:

slave1

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Fanfare being made today because Nissan have produced their 500,000th Leaf, with up to 5,400 on Irish roads.

Are there figures available for the total number of CCS cars there are on Irish roads?
Theres at least 500 Model 3's by now, so what about the other CCS cars (Kona, Ioniq eNiro plus all others), anyone have an educated guess on how many CCS cars in total we have? Because if it's 5,400, then fair enough with ESB installing at a 50/50 split between Chademo & CCS....

That's weird as they sold that 500,000th Leaf in Norway a few weeks back, our mate Bjorn was there

ethernet

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Fanfare being made today because Nissan have produced their 500,000th Leaf, with up to 5,400 on Irish roads.

Are there figures available for the total number of CCS cars there are on Irish roads?
Theres at least 500 Model 3's by now, so what about the other CCS cars (Kona, Ioniq eNiro plus all others), anyone have an educated guess on how many CCS cars in total we have? Because if it's 5,400, then fair enough with ESB installing at a 50/50 split between Chademo & CCS....

There's another thread which looks at the breakdown between the standards in more detail: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058038671

AndyBoBandy

Fanfare being made today because Nissan have produced their 500,000th Leaf, with up to 5,400 on Irish roads.

Are there figures available for the total number of CCS cars there are on Irish roads?
Theres at least 500 Model 3's by now, so what about the other CCS cars (Kona, Ioniq eNiro plus all others), anyone have an educated guess on how many CCS cars in total we have? Because if it's 5,400, then fair enough with ESB installing at a 50/50 split between Chademo & CCS....

markpb

innrain wrote: »

In Dublin City Center doesn't make any sense to use the few AC charges and pay the parking fee.

It does for people with parking permits.

the_amazing_raisin

Kramer wrote: »

Do you have to pay to park while charging on AC in Dublin?

If that's the case & I lose the Dublin market for my patented free parking cables, I'll have to reevaluate my strategy.

Dublin will be likely locked down soon anyway - cases all over the gaff .

Yeah Dublin city still charges for parking when charging. Apparently they got a bit annoyed at the ESB because the ESB put in the chargers and said they were free without consulting the council. Not sure how much truth there is in that but it's a pretty good example of how dysfunctional public charging is here

[Deleted User]

Kramer wrote: »

Or they could forgo problematic & expensive public charging in favour of cheap night rate at home (7c/kWh), if they had a range extender (PHEV), or a bigger battery.

Well that's the idea, charge if you need to. I used the Rex today for a good while, still cheaper on ESB fast chargers and AC so if I can avail of it I will if convenient but today it wasn't and I don't mind paying for convenience and the ability to put the boot down, having the reassurance there all the time is really great.

innrain

Kramer wrote: »

Do you have to pay to park while charging on AC in Dublin?

If that's the case & I lose the Dublin market for my patented free parking cables, I'll have to reevaluate my strategy.

Dublin will be likely locked down soon anyway - cases all over the gaff .

Not only you have to pay but they've designed the zones by color in a way to trick you.

Yellow zone is more expensive (€3.2/h) than the red zone (€2.7/h). Then there is green (€1,6/h) and orange is the cheapest (€1/h). Who designed these was probably color blind and chose them random. Well DLR is different so you can still market the cable to the Dubliners. But you should use a variable resistor as we are very fussy.

graememk

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The North West doesn't even have a Motorway

Only have a few dual carriageways....

Kramer

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone who needs a charge will be glad to pay.

Or they could forgo problematic & expensive public charging in favour of cheap night rate at home (7c/kWh), if they had a range extender (PHEV), or a bigger battery.

Kramer

innrain wrote: »

In Dublin City Center doesn't make any sense to use the few AC charges and pay the parking fee

Do you have to pay to park while charging on AC in Dublin?

If that's the case & I lose the Dublin market for my patented free parking cables, I'll have to reevaluate my strategy.

Dublin will be likely locked down soon anyway - cases all over the gaff

[Deleted User]

innrain wrote: »

In Dublin City Center doesn't make any sense to use the few AC charges and pay the parking fee; works out something like 69 cents per kWh, charging @7kW. Cheaper on Ionity with chargepoint. In the light of these Tesco chargers make sense if you have one within walking distance.

Anyone who needs a charge will be glad to pay. If they're in the city they have to pay for parking anyway.

innrain

I think the introduction of charges on the AC generates a migration to the DC.
Screenshot of CCS chargers Saturday evening

In Dublin City Center doesn't make any sense to use the few AC charges and pay the parking fee; works out something like 69 cents per kWh, charging @7kW. Cheaper on Ionity with chargepoint. In the light of these Tesco chargers make sense if you have one within walking distance.

Kramer

liamog wrote: »

Allegedly kramer downrated the AC cable to make the car charge slower, that way you can take advantage of the free parking whilst charging for longer.

I'm trying to patent it actually - it'll be known as the "Kramer Type™ Cable".
Not just free parking, but free prime parking

Black_Knight wrote: »

Ah, I just tune it down in the car. Lowest rate is around 16amp though, so about 70c an hour.

ELM327 wrote: »

In a Tesla with a single phase cable you can charge at 5a single phase or 1.2kW

As Bjorn would say............ahh sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

Looks like I won't be marketing to Hyundai Ioniq or Tesla owners so

[Deleted User]

ELM327 wrote: »

Problem with the M9 is that it doesnt go anywhere super important (like Galway, Cork, Belfast, Limerick) and thus is suffering the same fate as the north west

Or lack of motorway service stations I'd say more than anything.

Waterford is at the end of the M9 just as important as anywhere else really.

The North West doesn't even have a Motorway

ELM327

obi604 wrote: »

ah ok, and is this for the 150kw station?

No it's a Tesla map, with an approximate location for the coming soon (some since 2016) next tesla supercharger sites

obi604

Mickeroo wrote: »

Athenry.

ah ok, and is this for the 150kw station?

Mickeroo

obi604 wrote: »

where did yu get access to this map?

What location is the one in Galway?

Athenry.

ELM327

In a Tesla with a single phase cable you can charge at 5a single phase or 1.2kW

obi604

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

The planned ones are there alright;

where did yu get access to this map?

What location is the one in Galway?

kanuseeme

LOL