ESB eCars

liamog wrote: »

Allegedly kramer downrated the AC cable to make the car charge slower, that way you can take advantage of the free parking whilst charging for longer.

Ah, I just tune it down in the car. Lowest rate is around 16amp though, so about 70c an hour.

liamog

Black_Knight wrote: »

What are ye on about?

Allegedly kramer downrated the AC cable to make the car charge slower, that way you can take advantage of the free parking whilst charging for longer.

McGiver wrote: »

He should start selling those. Genuinely exclusively designed for Irish AC charger market (it wouldn't help ya in Europe with per min pricing :P).

What are ye on about?

Deleted User wrote: »

Bit of a joke already and still the M9 suffers.

Problem with the M9 is that it doesnt go anywhere super important (like Galway, Cork, Belfast, Limerick) and thus is suffering the same fate as the north west

Bit of a joke already and still the M9 suffers.

slave1

I think if we get all the planned and one more around Sligo then that's our lot

MJohnston

Ireland will always be at a disadvantage in this kind of privately built infrastructure due to the fact that we're an island with a small population.

Basically every other country in 'western' Europe (aside from Luxembourg) can boast larger populations AND being part of a continent-wide network of consumers.

Even as an island, we have a very low population, but I think it's the geographic isolation which really kills us. Combine it with a relatively low number of EVs per capita and we're just not a profitable investment for most (even for loss-leading infrastructure builders like Tesla).

AndyBoBandy

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't even see any planned on the map either, all 150 kw, have any been CCS retrofitted ?

The planned ones are there alright;

3 live super charger stations, that's really pathetic isn't it ?

I don't even see any planned on the map either, all 150 kw, have any been CCS retrofitted ?

When you look at the map of Europe, there's clearly something wrong in Ireland, perhaps they gave up due to the cost of installation or planning or maybe ESB issues ?

slave1

Deleted User wrote: »

We should harass Elon on twitter to get V3 superchargers, tell him the longer we wait the less chance of buying a model 3 lol.

AFAIK it's just the P model that can utilise the max charging rate

I think it's time to hit twitter all the same, Elon might remember Ireland exists.

Deleted User wrote: »

We should harass Elon on twitter to get V3 superchargers, tell him the longer we wait the less chance of buying a model 3 lol.

At this stage I'd take some V1 sites, we just need more supercharger sites!

We should harass Elon on twitter to get V3 superchargers, tell him the longer we wait the less chance of buying a model 3 lol.

cruisey1987 wrote: »

At least he wasn't using one of Kramers dodgy cables

He should start selling those. Genuinely exclusively designed for Irish AC charger market (it wouldn't help ya in Europe with per min pricing :P).

Btw in Czechia, it seems that Tesla Superchargers go into generic hubs where the other local networks also chip in with their DC or UFC. All three supercharger locations in CZ have several other changers too.

Examples:

8x supercharger, 3x triple head DC

6x supercharger, 4x 150 kW DC, 1x triple head DC, 1x 22kW AC

Looks like eCars have some chargers near two Tesla superchargers here but not exactly like this. And of course no hubs

Seems like a lot of sense to me if Tesla & local DC networks agreed and put it in the same compound rather then trying to do it separately, separate digging etc.

Are we going to discuss each 50/150 kW new charger here? :cool:
Other countries on the continent have hundreds of them. They'd be up for a very long thread if they should discuss every new DC there.

That's how the situation is dire here that we need to celebrate and discuss every single new DC charger, that's how slowly they are being added. If there was no Ionity spurt last this last/year there'd be very few DC connectors added.

Outside of the Pale, M4, M6, M7 and M8 it's really abysmal situation with regards the DC. AC is OKish.

the_amazing_raisin

slave1 wrote: »

Ah, where you been man? That's what you get when you've a PHEV:p
Charging came in August 10th'ish

At least he wasn't using one of Kramers dodgy cables

slave1 wrote: »

Ah, where you been man? That's what you get when you've a PHEV:p
Charging came in August 10th'ish

Lol, I just hadn't needed to use an AC charger in ages, I had wondered why there had been no cars plugged in there for the last good few times I passed by

I had expected a bit cheaper than 23 cent per Kwh but at least it might make the charge points more available, I bet usage has nosedived ?

slave1

Deleted User wrote: »

When did the ESB start charging for using AC points ?

I got charged 60 something cent after using the parkwest AC last Friday/

Ah, where you been man? That's what you get when you've a PHEV:p
Charging came in August 10th'ish

Deleted User wrote: »

When did the ESB start charging for using AC points ?

I got charged 60 something cent after using the parkwest AC last Friday/

Last month I think

AndyBoBandy

Deleted User wrote: »

When did the ESB start charging for using AC points ?

I got charged 60 something cent after using the parkwest AC last Friday/

Monday August 10th.

And they sent plenty of emails prior to this date informing of the impending charges for AC

ELM327 wrote: »

Is that in addition to the 50kW (So 2*22kW +1*3*50kW ?)

Yes. 50kW still exists. 22kW is new

When did the ESB start charging for using AC points ?

I got charged 60 something cent after using the parkwest AC last Friday/

Black_Knight wrote: »

Tesco naas and Tesco Mullingar are both online now.

Is that in addition to the 50kW (So 2*22kW +1*3*50kW ?)

Kramer

McGiver wrote: »

Where are the new chargers? When? How many?

Didn't the taxpayer pay for this "project"?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058084741&page=2

Tesco - every little helps

Kramer

McGiver wrote: »

Anyway, back to topic of eCars expansion - where is the actual expansion?

Check out your nearest Tesco - they might have had something installed by ECars

McGiver wrote: »

As nobody responded to me

Where are the new chargers? When? How many?

Didn't the taxpayer pay for this "project"?

Not sure I follow what you're referring to?

As nobody responded to me

Where are the new chargers? When? How many?

Didn't the taxpayer pay for this "project"?

Kramer wrote: »

Pity it wasn't moved here - in my haste to add my rant, I didn't realise it was a no chat thread :cool:.

Anyway, here it is:

Appreciate the updates but isn't it just crazy!

ECars are exercised installing next to useless, AC charge points, in supermarket car parks.
NO DC fast chargers, NO extra motorway or national route chargers, NO hubs.

These "green washing" AC22s are useless to all but people (flat dwellers, those in rented houses), living near these Tescos, without their own driveways or home charging. Probably a fraction of a % of EV owners who have to pay 4x night rate electricity prices to park up in their Tesco for likely 6 or 7 hours (@ 7kW).

It's beyond crazy, it really is :mad:.

I've no issue with Lidl/EasyGo etc. - it's a bonus for their customers, they are paying for it & it's free.

It is frustrating, really it is, since 2015 I had hoped for a much better network, it has improved at a snails pace, but there is no Political drive to improve it only words but no actual laws or legislation, but lets talk about reducing the motorway speeds to 80 Km/hr first lol.

AC is great really practical and yes, for apartments owners, People renting they can get a couple of days worth of driving from a charge while they're shopping depending on the power of the charger and the kms they drive, can't have enough of them and cars are getting faster AC chargers which will hopefully be more powerful sooner rather than later to make better use of this infrastructure.

There is not even a hint of making charging a legal right for apartment owners, renters etc.

The Government can do a lot of talk but that's all they're good for.