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COVID-19: Vaccine/antidote and testing procedures Megathread [Mod Warning - Post #1]

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Today being Paddy Day 2020... when do you think we will have a ‘flu jab’ / pill / syrup that we can take to make us immune/ les likely to catch this 19 virus?.

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Hmmzis

Serum Institute of India have now also halted their phase II trial of the Oxford vaccine, will wait for the findings before resuming:

https://twitter.com/SerumInstIndia/status/1303994614513192963

mandrake04

Was chatting to an ex-colleague who works for Abbott and asked him about the BinaxNow antigen test as it actually looks good. He says Trump done a deal for 150m of them buts reckons it’s exclusive to USA market won’t be sold elsewhere.

Gael23

Do we know how long the AZ investigation will take?

Dressoutlet

Question RE testing procedures.
Are symptomatic close Contacts given priority when it comes to testing?

Miike

Dressoutlet wrote: »

Question RE testing procedures.
Are symptomatic close Contacts given priority when it comes to testing?

What kind of priority? Like quicker appointments? Is yes, then no.

Hmmzis

Gael23 wrote: »

Do we know how long the AZ investigation will take?

I think they are going to take their time as they should. The lab work will take maybe a couple days, but I'm sure they'll put that spinal fluid through lots and lots of tests to find what exactly is causing the inflammation. That will take a bit longer I think, I wouldn't put past it for them to put the samples under a good EM and see if they can spot any viral vector infiltration.

IHaveTheFlag

Hmmzis wrote: »

I think they are going to take their time as they should. The lab work will take maybe a couple days, but I'm sure they'll put that spinal fluid through lots and lots of tests to find what exactly is causing the inflammation. That will take a bit longer I think, I wouldn't put past it for them to put the samples under a good EM and see if they can spot any viral vector infiltration.

The press handled the delay so irresponsibly. They immediately rushed to plaster the story everywhere and haven't followed up any of AZ's or Oxford's statements. Now when it's being distributed all people will remember is hearing of the initial delay, potentially putting them off. Stupidity.

froog

so if it turns out 3 or 4 vaccines get fully approved and ready for market, will every country go for one or is it just a market thing, go for the best price thing?

Hmmzis

froog wrote: »

so if it turns out 3 or 4 vaccines get fully approved and ready for market, will every country go for one or is it just a market thing, go for the best price thing?

Availability is going to be the big issue at the start. Then it's price and performance.

Gael23

Hmmzis wrote: »

Availability is going to be the big issue at the start. Then it's price and performance.

Will that be the case if vaccines are already in production giving supplyba head start?

Hmmzis

Gael23 wrote: »

Will that be the case if vaccines are already in production giving supplyba head start?

Yes, I'm afraid so, even with the manufacturers going full bore now, there simply will not be enough for anyone who wants the shot initially. Hopefully, all going well, that problem should should gradually become less and less of an issue with new candidates coming to the market and new production capacity being brought online.

Having said that, there is quite a bit now hinging on the investigation results from the AZ/Oxford hold. They have massive production capacity with a huge stockpile already produced. Switching over to some other platform will take time for them.

Gael23

It looks now that the Pfizer vaccine has become the front runner, although anything I have read about the Oxford adverse event doesn’t seem too worried that this cannot be overcome

hmmm

https://twitter.com/trishgreenhalgh/status/1304773343611154432

Micky 32

hmmm wrote: »

https://twitter.com/trishgreenhalgh/status/1304773343611154432

Great news! Thanks for posting the update.

Gael23

Great news

ACitizenErased

Great news, full steam ahead now. Not long to go.

stephenjmcd

Excellent news. Wont delay things too much.

Great have Oxford and Pfizer progressing well

Hmmzis

Welcome news, great to have them back!

MerlinSouthDub

Hmmzis wrote: »

Welcome news, great to have them back!

Great news indeed. Oddly, RTE aren't covering this. I'm pretty sure it was one of their main headlines when the trial was paused.

IHaveTheFlag

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Great news indeed. Oddly, RTE aren't covering this. I'm pretty sure it was one of their main headlines when the trial was paused.

George Lee is probably in tears right now

ACitizenErased

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Great news indeed. Oddly, RTE aren't covering this. I'm pretty sure it was one of their main headlines when the trial was paused.

You won’t see it anywhere. Doesn’t fit the narrative.

ACitizenErased

Pfizers expanding to include teenagers, people with HIV and people with Hepatitis B/C.

https://twitter.com/zacharybrennan/status/1304794137036820481?s=21

hmmm

Good to hear Pfizer are expanding their trial.

I don't think the news out of China has been posted here yet, but they've apparently vaccinated several hundred thousand already (I suppose you could think of it as a huge phase 3 trial).
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-injects-hundreds-of-thousands-with-experimental-covid-19-vaccines-11599834029

"China National Biotec Group Co., a subsidiary of state-owned Sinopharm , has given two experimental vaccine candidates to hundreds of thousands of people under an emergency-use condition approved by Beijing in July, the company said this week."

Deeper Blue

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Great news indeed. Oddly, RTE aren't covering this. I'm pretty sure it was one of their main headlines when the trial was paused.

It's actually on the site now surprisingly, what's not surprising is that it's buried at the bottom of the front page. Just in case anyone might see it and feel positive I suppose.

stephenjmcd

El Sueño wrote: »

It's actually on the site now surprisingly, what's not surprising is that it's buried at the bottom of the front page. Just in case anyone might see it and feel positive I suppose.

Also not surprising they say in it that Oxford vaccine might not be available until 2022. Goes against all commentary from vaccine producers

iguana

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You won’t see it anywhere. Doesn’t fit the narrative.

Why doesn't this fit the narrative? Why would there be a narrative that doesn't want this to be over in the near future? I mean clearly there is. I've taken to watching the WHO press briefings whenever I see any sort of reporting about what the WHO say and it is almost always the worst possible take on a usually quite neutral, sometimes even potentially positive statement. But why?

IHaveTheFlag

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Also not surprising they say in it that Oxford vaccine might not be available until 2022. Goes against all commentary from vaccine producers

I'm guessing the geniuses at rte know better than the actual professors at Oxford.

Gael23

iguana wrote: »

Why doesn't this fit the narrative? Why would there be a narrative that doesn't want this to be over in the near future? I mean clearly there is. I've taken to watching the WHO press briefings whenever I see any sort of reporting about what the WHO say and it is almost always the worst possible take on a usually quite neutral, sometimes even potentially positive statement. But why?

The WHO maybe but not NEPHET. Telling people good news wouldn’t instil fear in them

brianregan09

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Marhay70

Does anybody know where to get accurate local figure for infections? I live in Wexford and we have seen a steep increase in infections here over the past month according to the daily reports but when I look at Gov.ie website and go to the local map, this is not apparent.
I would expect increases to be localised but even in places with high rates of infection, numbers don't appear to be rising in line with the reports.