Outlaw Pete wrote: » The fact that Trump takes action shows that he takes responsibility. Just because Trump once said he did not take responsibility at all for a lag in testing does not mean that he never takes any for anything, which is what the left constantly claim and then wheel out that out of context quote as proof of it. By the way, Politifact found that he wasn't responsible for what he said he didn't take responsibility for:https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/23/dan-crenshaw/did-fda-regulations-slow-testing-coronavirus/
kenmm wrote: » And really that's just inciteful. Ill give an example - I was once a frequent visitor to a certain part of the UK. They are going through some pretty fundamental changes in politics. I see more hatred there than say ~10 or 15 years back. Is that because I think Tony Blair was some sort of messiah? No of course not, but do I see a sharp decline in the standard of living for many people (regardless of political divide). I see problems with society at different levels. I see areas that I visited as a child in ruin. That's experience and using my own judgement to try and figure out what is actually going on. Not because of some opinion pieces from Twitter, the Guardian or whatever and working out what I can do to not contribute to this sh!te that we are all accepting these days. None of this will change by playing the left vs right game. Rubbishing an opinion because you suspect the holder is "one of them woke liberals" or "Right wing Nazis".
Biker79 wrote: » . I assume you're saying ' inciteful ' because of the remarks about Islam. Just to be clear ( it shouldn't need to be clarified but so many people take unnecessary offense ) , that refers to Islamic ideologies, not Muslim people. Other religions are also subject to public criticism.
kenmm wrote: » I really don't get how some people are just lining up to make excuse after excuse for this guy. Obviously I think he is a bit of a buffoon that shouldn't be in power, but putting that aside, I could respect certain aspects of him if he just took some responsibility. But he wont, ever. Why can't his fans see that? That by being in continual denial and defence mode he is letting everyone down.
suicide_circus wrote: » 7% of journalists in the US are Republicanshttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/05/06/just-7-percent-of-journalists-are-republicans-thats-far-less-than-even-a-decade-ago/
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Because some people dont see the man and his personal faults. They see his economic policies, his law and order policies, how he puts his country first. People agree with these policies. His supporters see around his flaws
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Because some people dont see the man and his personal faults. They see his economic policies, his law and order policies, how he puts his country first. People agree with these policies. His supporters see around his flaws Some people only support the individual. Others support the policies and the attitude
Outlaw Pete wrote: » he takes responsibility.
Gentlemanne wrote: » Utterly delusional. Even the man himself admits: I take no responsilbility
Biker79 wrote: » The only game you people have is selective media edits and snips taken out of context. Have to say it was very effective with the George Floyd incident. Leaving out 50% of the video footage so a certain narrative could be built and exploited. Most people can see through it though.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » did not hear you whinge when obama was the cause of death of many thousands of "brown people" with the air strikes america had. As for listening to the people ? Would these be the same people who voted for him to be president in the first place. surely if he alienated all these people then biden should have no problem destroying him in the election. but why let things like logic get in the way of things
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » If you check my posting history I was very critical of obama and his drone strikes. Have you said a single thing against Trump and his continued use of drone strikes against "brown people "? Its a nice attempt at whataboutery pal but sorry, 2/10 for effort.
kenmm wrote: » I think the air strikes during Obama's time were widely condemned tbh And yet another diversion tactic away from a thread about Trump.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » There was a thread here about drone strikes that I posted in frequently discussing them, reporting them and slating obama and the Americans foreign policy on the use of them against civilians. But I think Trump is an idiot so that must make me a tofu eating cross dressing leftie liberal or some other idiotic label that they will accuse posters of :pac:
Gentlemanne wrote: » Selective media edit? It's a full question and answer. Can you explain to me what is taken out of context here? It is a video of him speaking. Where is the deception.
kenmm wrote: » You forgot woke! (I'm still not even sure what that word means, I'm quite sure most people are using it wrong)
kenmm wrote: » Don't you see tho? This is what both sides have. This is all just one media game to see who can look the best. This is part of the problem. It's delusional to think otherwise. Everyone just hanging in for confirmation bias. Look at the aftermath of Floyd. Over produced sensationalism all over the place.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » If you check my posting history I was very critical of obama and his drone strikes. Have you said a single thing against Trump and his continued use of drone strikes against "brown people "? And maybe read my post again, the "people" he should have listened to were the experts. Its a nice attempt at whataboutery pal but sorry, 2/10 for effort.
Biker79 wrote: » Its actually quite obvious. The entire planet, with the exception of some East Asian countries, did not have the necessary infrastructure in place to deal with a pandemic. So hes not taking responsilbity for the lack of infrastucure in place. Rightly so. Doesnt stop some simpoleton journalists trying to pin it on him though. Thats one of the easier videos to defend, so Ive no idea what you're attempting with that.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » The hypocrisy of you telling people to check posting history is staggering. I have clearly stated numerous times I do not like trump. He is as guilty as Obama was, if strikes are happening on his watch. Its your sheer complete bias, is what I have an objection to, this self righteousness you have that should anyone on here disagree with you then they must be wrong.If somebody says something negative about Biden, Obama etc, your immediate response is deflection and mention what Trump did as if this somehow negates the issue. You have been doing it for weeks, like a one trick pony and a number of people have also mentioned this. You harp on like Trump is going against people, based on nothing but speculation. Trump is in power because people wanted him in power, and if this guy is as bad as you say, how did he get elected ? Why is he still in with a very real shout in this election ? surely if he let people down he should not even be in the running. You have democrats and others going around who think they are morally superior, who are so bad some people are afraid to voice their opinion for Trump, for fear of being ridiculed, harassed etc and then lecturing people on how Trump tries to control others....again the obnoxious morally superior attitude. The issue is not Trump, its not Biden, its the whole system,and the people that have created this system. Like it or not Trump got in ahead of Hilary, ask yourself why. and if Trump gets in ahead of Biden, then those people he supposedly has let down, must be stupid for voting him back in.
