Seanergy wrote: » All the tills have perspex screens but show me the science behind perspex screens. There is none, just as there is no art to hanging or installing them, any old slab of plastic seems to be acceptable. When I went to checkout, I realised the tiller infront of me had no mask on, so best thought I should use another tiller only to realise none of them had masks on. Dunnes have been my favoured supermarket chain throughout the pandemic for 2 reasons, the had the best H&S program in place and they tend to have the larger and airier shops, making it easier to SD and offering better air quality. It's going to have to be another email to Dunnes about PRP's, possible risk points.
Marhay70 wrote: » You sound like you are familiar with this shop. Maybe the place to air your concerns is the shop owner/manager, it may be something they are unaware of. I would do it purely because I don't like to see morons flouting the regulations.
Seanergy wrote: » Show me the science that instructed the HSE to draw up those guidelines, it doesn't exisit.
Nickolas White Petroleum wrote: » From my experience very few till operators are wearing masks. SuperValue I’ve found are the only ones really that do. Dunnes a very odd one might have a mask but most don’t (that’s across multiple different stores), Aldi I don’t think I’ve ever seen a till operator wearing a mask and I rarely go to lidl but fairly sure they don’t wear them either when behind the screens. I agree they should be but they are keeping the guidelines by not wearing them behind screens.
Marhay70 wrote: » Are you suggesting that to avoid Covid, we all need to live in our own individual bubble because I certainly have not seen any science on that?
joeguevara wrote: » Actually the compliance there is excellent. Just using it as an example of how other shops could be effected. Was very surprised as the shop is mostly frequented by young construction workers and every single one of them would put on a mask before going in.
Seanergy wrote: » Nope, wasn't. Plenty of science supporting bubble living btw, why do youy think we embraced a lockdown? It's No.1 in the WHO NPI playbook.
Marhay70 wrote: » It may be excellent but obviously it's not universal, it only takes one.
joeguevara wrote: » It is. Nobody goes in that is not wearing a mask. I think you misunderstood my point and is probably the way I’m expressing it. I was saying that the legislation mandates shop staff to only refuse a person to complete transaction if not wearing a mask whereas they should be restricting entry. I then used the shop I’m used to if a similar shop existed then a person could essentially go through the entire shop without a mask before any action. But I must say I’m delighted that the shop next door is at it is. I wouldn’t go to a shop if compliance wasn’t as good as it can be.
Seanergy wrote: » Nope, wasn't. Plenty of science supporting bubble living btw,
Marhay70 wrote: » The WHO were just following best practice with regard to viruses. We must remember that eight months ago we knew absolutely nothing about this virus, it has been a learning curve ever since.
Seanergy wrote: » Where is the science behind these HSE guidelines?
robinph wrote: » You want some scientific papers to be quoted regarding if air or droplets of water from someone's breath can pass directly through a solid sheet of perspex?
Seanergy wrote: » And we operate a delayed response inline with WHO advice. The WHO have not advised the use of perspex screens in place of face coverings. How did the HSE learn that perspex screens at checkout's were equal to or better than clerks wearing face coverings? Where is the science behind these HSE guidelines? Today I witnessed not one but a whole row of Dunnes Stores cashiers operating masklessly.
Nickolas White Petroleum wrote: » The country should never have come out of the lockdown when it did that was a massive error in judgement. If we kept locked down over the summer we could be in a place now with the virus almost gone from the county and we could be able to open even more than we are but much more safely (but not travel into or out of the country allowed bar absolute emergencies). This opinion is strongly supported by experts such as a professor in UCC in virology. A harder lockdown for a little longer would be much better than a much longer half hearted lockdown we have now.
jackboy wrote: » Zero Covid may be possible quickly with masks combined with a selection of the previous restrictions. The 2k and 5k restrictions were nonsense and could be omitted.
Seanergy wrote: » Just back from my weekly Dunnes Stores shop and not one mask on any of the tillers, all other staff wearing visors or masks. There was a shift change infront of me, a masked worker arrived to relieve the one working the till, they took off their mask to work the till and the one who had been working the till unmasked put on a mask to walk off through the shop for her break. Obviously policy or advice from HSE must have changed.
Diarmuid wrote: » Just posting this anecdote here. On hols in Italy at the moment. Piémonte to be precise. With regard to mask wearing, On the street I reckon 20% wear a mask 60% wear a mask on their elbow or less frequently on their chin 20% don't wear a mask In shops, all wear masks Restaurants and bars are pretty much back to normal apart from the fact that the waiters wear masks all the time This is in a location with pretty much no foreign holiday makers
Roger_007 wrote: » For screens to be effective the would need to totally enclose and seal the checkout area and have a separate air supply. The ones that are in use in shops are a joke. They re nothing but a fig leaf to pretend that the staff are protected in some way. They are not protected at all. It’s all part of the Orwellian world that we now inhabit where you can get people to believe in just about anything.
patnor1011 wrote: » They are probably the same joke as homemade face masks
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