Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

VonLuck wrote: »

I actually think I saw the aftermath of that. Frenchman's lane? Glad to hear you're (relatively) okay. Hopefully it doesn't get dragged out and the driver gets rightfully punished.

That’s the one. Yes I’d imagine it was me you saw. Thanks for the well wishes! Hopefully his insurance company dint act the clown.

VonLuck

barrier86 wrote: »

I got hit last Wednesday morning. Coming into work in city centre and got hit on Gardner street. A car coming the other direction took a right turn across the road and didn’t see me. I hit the front passenger side of his car really hard.

Ambulance job. Witnessed by another motorist who gave his details to the Gardaí. I ended up with a dislocated left shoulder and the ligaments have been thorn on my right shoulder (grade 3 ACJ separation). The driver of the car is claiming it was my fault “I came out of nowhere” - he hit me when I was on the bike lane!!!!

Anyway, apart from being banged up I’m ok for the most part. Haven’t seen my bike yet as the Gardaí have it and I’ve to go by and give a statement as the other person is denying liability

I actually think I saw the aftermath of that. Frenchman's lane? Glad to hear you're (relatively) okay. Hopefully it doesn't get dragged out and the driver gets rightfully punished.

Ferris

Johnny Jukebox wrote: »

To echo a previous poster; sounds like the driver is being a pr1ck here - I'd advise to lawyer up and let them worry about all the legals etc. - you'll have enough on your plate getting back to full health.

Another option might be to use the Personal Accident and Injuries Board. The process is quite straightforward. My experience was positive enough.

I think the award might be lower but I was happy with the outcome and you don't have to worry about solicitors / court fees etc. Actually I saw a survey that showed that the awards are not all that lower once costs are subtracted. A barristor friend was of the opinion that he would have gotten me more but I don't subscribe to the inflated compo thing personally.

My other experience is that the Guards were happy to let it go the civil route, but you have a witness etc. Just make sure that the witness is responsive and turns up....

5uspect wrote: »

Hope you get well soon and that driver gets what they deserve.

Thanks for the well wishes.

Once the investigation has been complete and finalised I’ll give the details of the outcome on here.

breezy1985

Almost had one today that was a bit my own fault in fairness.

A small delivery truck overtook me just coming up to a crossroads and then stopped to turn right almost straight after. Of course me being annoyed that he didn't wait behind me flew out on his left hand side and didn't see the car coming across the crossroads on my right. He was a good distance away but I gave him a fright all the same and could have been worse

lawrencesummers

barrier86 wrote: »

I got hit last Wednesday morning. Coming into work in city centre and got hit on Gardner street. A car coming the other direction took a right turn across the road and didn’t see me. I hit the front passenger side of his car really hard.

Ambulance job. Witnessed by another motorist who gave his details to the Gardaí. I ended up with a dislocated left shoulder and the ligaments have been thorn on my right shoulder (grade 3 ACJ separation). The driver of the car is claiming it was my fault “I came out of nowhere” - he hit me when I was on the bike lane!!!!

Anyway, apart from being banged up I’m ok for the most part. Haven’t seen my bike yet as the Gardaí have it and I’ve to go by and give a statement as the other person is denying liability

While your making a statement to the Gardai you may as well arrange a meeting with your solicitor.

I dislocated my shoulder a few years ago, and it’s never been right since. I’ve had lots of physio at my own expense and have lost a lot of range of motion because of it. If that had been someone’s else’s fault i would have made sure I wasn’t paying for the rehab.

Best of luck.

I got hit last Wednesday morning. Coming into work in city centre and got hit on Gardner street. A car coming the other direction took a right turn across the road and didn’t see me. I hit the front passenger side of his car really hard.

Ambulance job. Witnessed by another motorist who gave his details to the Gardaí. I ended up with a dislocated left shoulder and the ligaments have been thorn on my right shoulder (grade 3 ACJ separation). The driver of the car is claiming it was my fault “I came out of nowhere” - he hit me when I was on the bike lane!!!!

Anyway, apart from being banged up I’m ok for the most part. Haven’t seen my bike yet as the Gardaí have it and I’ve to go by and give a statement as the other person is denying liability

Eamonnator

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Meanwhile in the UK, the West Mercia Police show that cycling on a road is just too dangerous for their officers (it's worth looking at her other responses in the twitter thread)...

https://twitter.com/SuptBrighton/status/1305471453811310592

Clearly, she didn't think it through, before tweeting.

breezy1985

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Meanwhile in the UK, the West Mercia Police show that cycling on a road is just too dangerous for their officers (it's worth looking at her other responses in the twitter thread)...

https://twitter.com/SuptBrighton/status/1305471453811310592

Does that mean all drugs busts are cancelled too.

sy_flembeck wrote: »

Calm down, I think you're hallucinating after your trauma

Took me by surprise as well but it made a miserable day into an acceptable one, and to be honest, it was all I needed after a rough week. It's amazing the power of a kind word.

sy_flembeck

CramCycle wrote: »

Coming to a junction this evening and a car overtook and swung across me. I seen it happening so grabbed the brakes before he even indicated. Taxi came by right after I lifted my hands to give a "what the f*ck" shrug. Window down, I could hear it coming, well f*ck me if he didn't roar out the window:
"Some people have no f*cking patience, where was he in a rush too". I gave him a nod, a thumbs up and a thanks. It was just really nice for someone to realise why you were annoyed.

Thank god for the taxi driver as I was close to losing it, this was one of the worst days in years commuting, people cutting across me multiple times (on approach, as in turning right), merging into me, running reds as I was waiting to go through etc. Thankfully the few drivers who were decent made up for all those who were prats.

Calm down, I think you're hallucinating after your trauma

Eleven Benevolent Elephants

Coming to a junction this evening and a car overtook and swung across me. I seen it happening so grabbed the brakes before he even indicated. Taxi came by right after I lifted my hands to give a "what the f*ck" shrug. Window down, I could hear it coming, well f*ck me if he didn't roar out the window:
"Some people have no f*cking patience, where was he in a rush too". I gave him a nod, a thumbs up and a thanks. It was just really nice for someone to realise why you were annoyed.

Thank god for the taxi driver as I was close to losing it, this was one of the worst days in years commuting, people cutting across me multiple times (on approach, as in turning right), merging into me, running reds as I was waiting to go through etc. Thankfully the few drivers who were decent made up for all those who were prats.

suffering golfer

Took up cycling to work during the lockdown. Thankfully no near miss until this morning. Going straight through a four way junction with the lights in my favour. Taxi coming in the opposite direction turning right somehow didn't see me and turned on me, missing by millimeters. Think he genuinely didn't see me but really dumb move.

Main cause of ire for me is the teenagers using phones when cycling. Seen a few of them around and they are a goddamned menace to themselves and other users. Have no common sense whatsoever!! I almost knock over one or two off them when they suddenly swerve on the road. Seem to be popular on Amiens street and North Strand road for some reason.

The "cycle lane" on the Oscar Traynor Road is rubbish. It's a mere painted line on the periphery of the bus lane. If you cycle in it, you risk being squeezed by buses, taxis and even people not entitled to use the bus lane.

I was driving and stopped in traffic. A cyclist was coming down the lane (from Santry towards Northside) and a car was on top of his mudguard he moved into the cycle track and was squeezed by with a blast of the horn.

The irony. The driver wasn't even allowed to be there.

tnegun

kenmm wrote: »

Two things I noticed: Both times it appears he moves out enough, but then comes closer to you. I am not sure if this is the eyes playing tricks tho with the way the road marking are painted. I think the first one the lorry moves out, but the road narrows and moves back in as a result.

I think its a combination of him being a bully, completely misjudging your speed and on the second towards the end the road does narrow from the left.

I've had a few close calls at Finnstown house too there used to be some of those plastic wands fixed in the middle of the road and traffic would think you had loads of room bar the road narrowed from the left and drivers would completely misjudge this space a pass very close often at speed. I saw a bus take them out one day and they haven't been replaced thankfully!

breezy1985

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I had to pick up some stuff earlier from near Park West so rather than take the car, I hopped on the bike and got in a bit of exercise.
Typical! Met Eireann app tells me no rain due but of course there was plenty.

On my way home, this bin lorry came a bit close at Adamstown. At the time it felt bad, especially the second pass.
Looking back at the footage, I'm having second thoughts about it - am I just used to close passes or was he too close in your view?
https://streamable.com/zi8euf

Its the first bit that I would be annoyed at because its completely pointless to overtake a bike only to stop at a red right after and he doesnt give you enough room to get in behind him once he stops. To me it looks like he is pulling in to force you into the left turning lane so hes not really overtaking but taking your space on the road

Seth Brundle wrote: »

I had to pick up some stuff earlier from near Park West so rather than take the car, I hopped on the bike and got in a bit of exercise.
Typical! Met Eireann app tells me no rain due but of course there was plenty.

On my way home, this bin lorry came a bit close at Adamstown. At the time it felt bad, especially the second pass.
Looking back at the footage, I'm having second thoughts about it - am I just used to close passes or was he too close in your view?
https://streamable.com/zi8euf

Two things I noticed: Both times it appears he moves out enough, but then comes closer to you. I am not sure if this is the eyes playing tricks tho with the way the road marking are painted. I think the first one the lorry moves out, but the road narrows and moves back in as a result.

Secondly, I think after the first one I would have stayed behind him at the lights - but bin lorries are the worst to be stuck behind because of the stench

Coming up to a roundabout yesterday and I can see a large haulage truck approaching me from behind. Its one of those roundabouts where they have changed the rules on what lane means what but anyway. I clearly signal where I am going, look behind, he is slowing, all good. We both have to stop as a car is on the roundabout. I take off as quick as I can to clear it, and he slowly takes off. Car undertakes him and squeezes between the two of us, wheel spins as they try to do it. I swerve outta the way, and look sidewards (Blue Toyota Avensis 10RN100*, Male driver, mid 50s) at a guy just eyeballing me like I murdered his kids, while his passenger his transfixed straight ahead in fear and a teenager in the back is blissfully unaware. He was staring at em so intently he almost ran the car into the kerb at the exit. Haulier got a shock and slowed, we waved each other, thank god he was on the ball

DoraDelite wrote: »

Trying out my new rear camera after one close pass too many. This was the on Merrion road today. The car didn't deviate or cross the line of the next lane when skimming me. I felt this one was dangerous at speed and I estimate no more than 1-2cms from my handlebars. The outer lane was also clear for them to move into.
For context my rear tyre is 6cms wide and my handlebars are approx 32cms on either side of the tyre.

This one is going to traffic watch.

MojoMaker wrote: »

You won't get far with that.

On the "bad" scale, it barely registers (sadly).

I've found that responses to close pass incidents is VERY dependent on the individual Garda, so give it a short. Video evidence makes it harder (though not impossible) for them to refuse to take action.

VonLuck wrote: »

I didn't say it was the pillars fault. It may have been a contributing factor though.

Wasn't defending the driver, merely stating that I understand how someone can make the error of judgement. I'm sure there are plenty of "good" drivers who would have made the exact same mistake.

I got what you meant but its a symptom of poor driving, not a mitigating factor. Undoubtedly if a collision had happened, the driver would have used this reason, the judge would have said fair enough and that would have been it. Sadly, it just shows how acceptable poor driving is. I was taught his at a young age. Part of this was probably due to driving lots of different vehicles but it was always taught to me by my parents, school teachers, driving instructor, check, check, an then, just to be sure, check again.

I say this as someone who is not a good driver, lots of room for improvement. The only good you can hope for is that the driver might have learned to look again going forward but I suspect they just blamed the pillar and thinks there is nothing they could have done.

VonLuck

CramCycle wrote: »

It happened because he gunned it from stationary, and never looked again. It's not the pillars fault, he should have pulled out a bit, slowed, re looked to make sure and then, in this case, stop as he would have seen the cyclist. I can see how it happens but that is because of poor driving technique, nothing else.

I didn't say it was the pillars fault. It may have been a contributing factor though.

Wasn't defending the driver, merely stating that I understand how someone can make the error of judgement. I'm sure there are plenty of "good" drivers who would have made the exact same mistake.

CramCycle wrote: »

Pretty much my point, we really train drivers quite poorly in this country.

We barely train drivers.
When 12 hours of lessons was introduced there was almost a sense of outrage.

In many other countries, doing so little would be considered a joke.

5uspect wrote: »

She shot out because she thought there was a gap. She was only watching the oncoming car who let her out and the car in front of me.

Pretty much my point, we really train drivers quite poorly in this country.

It happened because he gunned it from stationary, and never looked again. It's not the pillars fault, he should have pulled out a bit, slowed, re looked to make sure and then, in this case, stop as he would have seen the cyclist. I can see how it happens but that is because of poor driving technique, nothing else.

Stark wrote: »

I was waiting to cross at the Seville Place end on Wednesday in order to head on to the new stretch of greenway. (Where the Dublin Commuter Coalition guy got ran over). There were two Gardaí in full hi-viz stationed at the junction of Seville Place and Guild Street. They were literally screaming "wtf are you doing, the light is red you idiots" at the cars driving through the red light there without a care in the world.

If only there was some other possible action the Gardai could take to deal with law breakers on the road...

VonLuck

5uspect wrote: »

Watching the cars and not the road

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8hDuvMM8KY

Not defending the driver at all, but I can see how it happens. Car pillars can easily block the view of a cyclist when they're a much smaller object than a moving vehicle. Need to be doubly sure when you look over your shoulder for oncoming traffic.

Stark wrote: »

I was waiting to cross at the Seville Place end on Wednesday in order to head on to the new stretch of greenway. (Where the Dublin Commuter Coalition guy got ran over). There were two Gardaí in full hi-viz stationed at the junction of Seville Place and Guild Street. They were literally screaming "wtf are you doing, the light is red you idiots" at the cars driving through the red light there without a care in the world.

Police have been seen all over this area (and I mean over the last few weeks, not since that poor Brazilian lad), mostly not giving a fu(k.

kenmm wrote: »

Ouch, hopefully no lasting injuries..

I bet that's at the crossing of n strand road/ Amiens st- used the new path a couple of times, but people fly through that crossing.

After mistakenly calling this one out the other week, I got a bit of a heart in mouth moment. Waited for green man, bus was in city bound bus lane to my right (waiting at red) and as I'm approaching the middle of crossing the road a Merc is going at it up the driving lane (hidden by the bus, but luckily was looking as I crossed)

They jammed on and stopped ok, full apologies etc, no harm done, but one can only imagine it was an amber gamble (IE red) on the lights at the start of the bridge (Ossary road?).

I don't know if the lights are connected, but it seems a risky spot, heads up for anyone using it!

average_runner

Seth Brundle wrote: »

F**ks sake
https://twitter.com/dublincycling/status/1301622633448996865?s=19

Do we actually know what happened here except for the toe rags in the car.
Did the car break the lights as well?