Penn wrote: » Plus as stated, it was illegal for him to carry a gun outside. He was breaking the law. He did not have a permit and was underage. He was breaking the law. And that was before he shot and killed two people.
Leroy42 wrote: » It is all very odd when compared to th shooting of Blake. The excuse is that there might have been a knife in the car and as such the officer was right to shoot him, in the back, 7 times. Compare this to a white dude walking along with a gun and the cops did nothing at all.
Leroy42 wrote: » To work? Jebus, you have totally lost it? Whi hired him for this 'work'. What were his responsibilities, who did he answer to? If he was working for someone, who was it and are they then not ultimately responsible to the killings and of course for his legal issues?
Carfacemandog wrote: » Who was his employer? It's the first I'm hearing of this.
Kidchameleon wrote: » Re. Uniformed rioters arriving on planes. I have no evidence that it is true but its not the first time I have heard that.
gmisk wrote: » To work....what was his job exactly? And did it involve being underage carrying an assault rifle...does he need it to lifeguard?
LessOutragePlz wrote: » He was working as a community lifeguard in Kenosha before he went to assist a local business owner in protecting his business that's why he was in Kenosha that day.
LessOutragePlz wrote: » The rifle was his firends so he didn't bring it to work with him.
LessOutragePlz wrote: » He was working as a community lifeguard. "After Kyle finished his work that day as a community lifeguard in Kenosha, he wanted to help clean up some of the damage, so he and a friend went to the local public high school to remove graffiti by rioters. Later in the day, they received information about a call for help from a local business owner, whose downtown Kenosha auto dealership was largely destroyed by mob violence. The business owner needed help to protect what he had left of his life’s work, including two nearby mechanic’s shops. Kyle and a friend armed themselves with rifles due to the deadly violence gripping Kenosha and many other American cities, and headed to the business premises. The weapons were in Wisconsin and never crossed state lines."https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/kyle-rittenhouses-lawyers-release-statement/amp/?taid=5f4bf7e546b85b0001c04acf&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&__twitter_impression=true
namloc1980 wrote: » Bit of a concern that Homeland Security and the TSA are allowing uniformed domestic terrorists fly into the nation's capital with "gear" per Trump? Doesn't say much for the law and order president. BTW: it's a lie. It's ok to admit Donald just made it up or is repeating a conspiracy theory.
Leroy42 wrote: » So a community lifeguards job is to handle firearms and protect local businesses? Really? So, it appears that he left his actual job to 'work' on something else, which would imply a different job. So again, who hired him? Who is he reporting too? What were his responsibilities? Was he considered part of the police force at the time, or a private security firm or was he acting as a militia?
LessOutragePlz wrote: » What are you on about no one hired him to do anything? A local business asked people for help and he and friend answered his call for help. You can't defend a business from a violent mob without a weapon so they brought guns. What would you expect them to do? Politely ask the violent mob to stop being violent? :rolleyes:
ohnonotgmail wrote: » did the business owner specifically ask kyle and his friend to protect their business or did Kyle decide to show up to fulfill his cop fantasy? who gave rifles to a 17 year old? how far away from the business did the murders take place?
LessOutragePlz wrote: » Being charged with a crime does not make you guilty of a crime. How is not supporting law enforcement he sent in the national guard to help the local police in Kenosha and the police chief was grateful for their help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXNs9neY4bU
gmisk wrote: » Do you have a link to that? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere. He was still underage....carrying an assault rifle...so it is still illegal. It also wasn't "work" no matter what way you spin it. He was a 17yo illegally carrying an assault rifle playing army basically, he boosted earlier about having a med kit....he should have stuck to sitting at home playing call of duty.
gmisk wrote: » Do you have a link to that? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere. He was still underage....carrying an assault rifle..which wasn't clearly licensed to him either....so it is still illegal. It also wasn't "work" no matter what way you spin it. He was a 17yo illegally carrying an assault rifle playing army basically, he boosted earlier about having a med kit....he should have stuck to sitting at home playing call of duty.
Eric Cartman wrote: » the AR15 is not an 'assault rifle', its not fully automatic, it fires no differently to any standard hunting rifle and is not illegal. There are states where you do not need a licence at all for a rifle. You do need a licence for a pistol like the one pointed at Kyle everywhere though...
Leroy42 wrote: » Hold on, he did, you are claiming that he was working. Which is it?
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » You must believe Epstein died an innocent man so
Kidchameleon wrote: » LOL I said straight off the bat that I had no evidence. Keep your panties on. I have heard it before because clients in the US have spoken of it. Again just to be clear, it may or may not be true & I cannot prove I have heard it before.
LessOutragePlz wrote: » I was responding to another poster that claimed he went to Kenosha with the sole intention of causing trouble. I pointed out that the reason he was in Kenosha that day was to work as a community lifeguard so he was indeed working in Kenosha that day as a lifeguard. Do try keep up.
salmocab wrote: » Most normal people wouldn’t expect children to arm themselves
gmisk wrote: » Ok...so he was illegally carrying a rifle. In that state do you need a license? Are you allowed to open carry? Are you allowed to have a rifle on the streets when you are 17 in that state?
Was it legal to carry a rifle at the protests? If a person is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm, it is legal to carry any legal firearm openly in Wisconsin. Before Wisconsin passed a concealed carry law in 2011, gun rights advocates organized open-carry group outings and won acquittals or dismissals for several people arrested during the events. More recently, gun owners have been carrying assault-style rifles at demonstrations at state capitols against stay-at-home orders during the early months of the pandemic this spring. Could the suspect carry the rifle legally? Under Wisconsin statutes that say anyone under 18 who "goes armed" with any deadly weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor, Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, was not old enough to legally carry the assault-style rifle he had. But John Monroe, a lawyer who specializes in gun rights cases, believes an exception for rifles and shotguns, intended to allow people age 16 and 17 to hunt, could apply. Tom Grieve, a Milwaukee defense lawyer who also specializes in gun cases, agreed the exception might apply beyond hunting, but said that part of the law is poorly drafted. He said he would argue to apply a rule of law that interprets ambiguous criminal statutes in favor of the defendant. Rittenhouse could be in violation of having a gun within a gun-free zone, if there was one covering, for instance, a school nearby. Also, Illinois law requires anyone who owns any kind of firearm in that state to have a Firearm Owners Identification card, but that is only available to someone 21 or older, or someone with a sponsor who is 21 and eligible for a card. Rittenhouse did not own the gun, his lawyer said Friday. "Kyle did not carry a gun across state line," L. Lin Wood said in a tweet Friday morning. "The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the state of Wisconsin."
