schmittel wrote: » I could understand Covid causing some delays in March/April/May but you'd wonder what sort of delays Covid could could have caused since June. i.e if they said announcement was imminent 10 weeks ago, it has not suddenly become no where near close because of Covid. it must be something else. Change of policy from the new government which was formed 10 weeks ago?
Reuben1210 wrote: » I could hazard a guess: Eamon 'Eco Warrior' Ryan
schmittel wrote: » It's a tricky one for the greens. They cannot be seen to support building a brand new motorway when an existing road could be widened, but equally they cannot be seen to support widening an existing road in a forest full of ancient native oak protected by law. Good luck squaring that circle!
Reuben1210 wrote: » The same Oaks Eamon and his pals built tree houses in and lived the life of Tarzan in during the 'Eco Warrior' debacle in the early naughties. It could easily be personal for him too.
Sam Russell wrote: » Those eco warriors came from England over to 'Kill Mack a noag' to save the planet and the oak trees in the Glen of the Downs. No Green Party involvement at all.
BelfastVanMan wrote: » Didn't they end up damaging quite a few of the trees, ironically?
Sam Russell wrote: » Well, yes, but they did save the planet - sort of - but that is an ongoing project. The speed limits imposed as a result of the protest have mostly been removed.
BelfastVanMan wrote: » It's still a 100km/h limit through GOTD, though, isn't it?
Sam Russell wrote: » Current road works restriction in Killmac are 60 km/s.
p_haugh wrote: » Must be going mighty fast if its 60km per second! ..../s
Sam Russell wrote: » Oooooops. 60 Km/h. Plenty of drivers not keeping to the posted speed limit - maybe they think its per second.
spacetweek wrote: » Someone brings this up every time! I presume the trees recovered and grew back? Doesn't sound like a big deal.
schmittel wrote: » For all the criticism the ecowarriors got, dismissed as work shy loons etc, their practical objections have been proven totally right in time. i.e the long term strategy for the road was badly thought out, what's the point of widening the road now, when in 20 years time it will be needed to widened again?
prunudo wrote: » Still ropes stuck up in some of the trees all these years later.
punisher5112 wrote: » Biggest traffic issues out of Dublin is the speed restrictions, fuel station and cars using one or two exits...
donvito99 wrote: » Lower speeds (variable speed limits at rush hour) would likely improve the traffic situation.
punisher5112 wrote: » But it wasn't wide enough when it should have been done right.... Biggest traffic issues out of Dublin is the speed restrictions, fuel station and cars using one or two exits...
schmittel wrote: » That's the councils fault not the protestors. WCC position at the time was that they were doing it right.
prunudo wrote: » The original design was/is a shambles, between the lolo junctions, the Kilmac garages, narrow lanes in the Glen and the fact there is absolutely no scope for additional capacity, whether that be for general traffic or bus lanes.
Reuben1210 wrote: » Eamon Ryan was one of the eco warriors and I don't think he came from England!
donvito99 wrote: » I imagine the only ones that didn't grow back were those occupying lane 1 + the hard shoulder in both directions.
spacetweek wrote: » Ropes don't damage trees.
spacetweek wrote: » I read somewhere that there were only 70 trees removed. You know in a given year, in a city like e.g. Dublin, large numbers of old trees are cut down and new ones planted? This is just part of the life cycle of trees. 70 trees in a forest the size of the Glen is nothing. I'm sure the wildlife was in from the edge a bit anyway.
