kris_2021 wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2020/0831/1162379-europe-covid-cases/ Sweden - the only normal country in Europe or maybe even in the world. When will rest of the world understand that masks are useless in most cases??
weldoninhio wrote: » State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell of the Public Health Agency insists scientific studies have not proven that masks are effective in limiting the spread of the virus, suggesting they can do more harm than good if used sloppily. "There are at least three heavyweight reports - from the World Health Organization, the ECDC and The Lancet report that the WHO cites - which all state that the scientific evidence is weak. We haven't carried out our own assessment," he recently told reporters. Has no one shown him the picture that’s constantly posted here showing “droplets”!!!
ronano wrote: » What's the advice for wearing mask under your chin when outside? I put it on in any internal setting or just general crowded public setting. It's an annoyance having to take it off put it back on every few mins
"We're seeing far too many people walking around with [face coverings] under their chin. We're seeing many people wearing them, but with their nose exposed." Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr@ronan_glynn urges people to make sure they're wearing face coverings correctly. #Covid19
Jim_Hodge wrote: » Dr. Glynn this evening
Away With The Fairies wrote: » Saw a young one in a shop today, mask around her chin and coughing away into her fist. Surely a fist won't hold in all those droplets. Idiot b!tch.
extra gravy wrote: » https://trendswide.com/people-who-wont-wear-face-masks-are-more-likely-to-be-sociopaths-study-claims/ "People who won’t wear face masks are more likely to be sociopaths, study claims." No surprise there.
odyssey06 wrote: » I thought there already was a thread for Sweden and their huge death rate... The death rate is bad beside ours and even worse v early mask adopting countries. So I am not giving them the benefit of the doubt on masks... though at least they seem to be considering masks on public transport.
Spiderman0081 wrote: » “huge” That’s a scary number.
Jim_Hodge wrote: » 5805 dead, or 574 per million. 9th highest worldwide. Is that less scary?
Spiderman0081 wrote: » On an average week, covid aside, 1500 people die in Sweden. Between 4000 and 6000 people die of sepsis every year in Sweden. 2017-2018 there were over 1100 flu deaths. 2000-3000 people die on average every year from pneumonia, a complication onset by the flu. Are you now terrified or do these deaths not seem as scary because their not the covid monster?
Hunky Monster wrote: » It's time to admit the Irish Gov blew this out of all proportion. New CDC figures show that 94% of the 153,504 people who died "from" cv-19 in the States had 2-3 serious underlying conditions, the remaining 6% were mostly of advanced age. It's time to end the nonsense and stop pretending. I'm sure the stats are the same here, well the numbers they didn't get caught diddling. In before tinfoil hat/right winger insults. If you don't believe the stats you can all trot off to the CDC website and check them out for yourselves. A look at a proper website with actual facts and figures might do you the world of good compared to watching the lies on RTE.
Hunky Monster wrote: » It's time to admit the Irish Gov blew this out of all proportion. New CDC figures show that 94% of the 153,504 people who died "from" cv-19 in the States had 2-3 serious underlying conditions, the remaining 6% were mostly of advanced age.
Hunky Monster wrote: » Lol. Incredible. You're falling for it.
John O.Groats wrote: » Falling for what? Oh right the big bad government/corporations/the Illuminati with their evil plans for world domination? You must be going through your stock of tinfoil hats at a fair rate of knots. You might think you`re clever with all this BS while in reality you are just displaying how much of an absolute fcuking idiot you actually are.
Spiderman0081 wrote: » Try saying “tinfoil hats” five times fast. It sounds like tinfoil hats
[Deleted User] wrote: » Masked hamsters were less likely to get the virus and also got a milder dose if infected. Unfortunately there are no pictures of hamsters wearing masks as the air tube was masked, not the individual hamster.
Spiderman0081 wrote: » Omg this is fantastic. One mask wearer calling a young one an “idiot b!tch” while a fellow mask wearer links an article about non mask wearers being sociopaths. I mean, WOW
Arghus wrote: » I disagree with your interpretation of those statistics. 6% represents where Covid was mentioned as the ONLY cause of death. That doesn't mean that Covid played no role in the remaining 94%, far from it. Firstly, It was listed as a contributing factor in ALL deaths, which shouldn't be underplayed or forgotten. Secondly, If you look through the list of attributed comorbidities a huge proportion of them are medical conditions that are well known associated symptoms of Covid: Pneumonia, respiratory failure, respiratory arrest etc, etc. You would expect to see this. Covid doesn't just kill people by itself, it's what it does to the body - it causes pneumonia, it causes respiratory failure, heart failure, renal failure. These will be listed on most death certificates as comorbidities. That doesn't mean that 94% of those people had serious prior underlying conditions. Obviously some did, but a lot of those comorbidities are textbook examples of symptoms of Covid. An example would be - If you get Covid and covid gives you pneumonia and that pneumonia then causes respiratory failure, which in turn causes a cardiac arrest then all of those factors can be listed as comorbidities - but the only reason you suffered from them in the first place is because you contracted Covid to begin with.
patnor1011 wrote: » Flu or even common cold works the same way for people with other serious ilnesses. He most likely meant that perhaps we overestimate one while underestimate quite a couple of other viruses. We learned to live with most of them it is about time to realize that we should learn to live with this one. There will hardly be magic pill or jab for covid. Experience with other viruses and particularly with corona viruses shows it clearly.
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