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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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Igotadose

Biker79 wrote: »

Rubbish.

Choose an outcome - say, Trump is being hamered in the polls. Its quite newsworthy. Then, design a few polls with this outcome in mind and... Ta-da - Trump is now falling behind in the polls. Keep it up and it may stick in the minds of voters.

Except as we all know from 2016, the polls only exist to keep desperate data analysts in work, they have no real value.

Who is this 'we'? You and your mirror? You talk a lot about 'we.' Have you seen a therapist? Sometimes, yinno, those little men whispering in your ear don't exist. It's one of the many symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia. You can look it up.

In 2016, it was called within the margin of error at the end. And, that's how it unfortunately turned out.

Biker79

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Another day , another drop in polling from his favourite pollster

His satisfaction rating has dropped every single day since the start of the Convention.

He was at 51% Satisfaction last Saturday , and was Tweeting all about it. which was a 2 point increase described as a "surge" in satisfaction.

Today he's at 46% Approval - a 5% drop when he has been front and centre in the media all week.

If a 2 point increase is a "Surge" what is a 5 point drop?

Rubbish.

Choose an outcome - say, Trump is being hamered in the polls. Its quite newsworthy. Then, design a few polls with this outcome in mind and... Ta-da - Trump is now falling behind in the polls. Keep it up and it may stick in the minds of voters.

Except as we all know from 2016, the polls only exist to keep desperate data analysts in work, they have no real value.

Igotadose

Apparently the FLOTUS's green dress is something that lends itself to video editing (green screening.) So as you can imagine, the twitterati had a lot of fun with it last night. I didn't realize the #IMPOTUS and the FLOTUS walking down the stairs was actually part of the RNC festivities. I wonder what they did to make the stairs easier to walk down. Maybe the #IMPOTUS practiced, or there are sticky treads or something.

Anyway, among others, Project Lincoln had fun greenscreeing the dress.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1299192786428755968

Timberrrrrrrr

Biker79 wrote: »

Bloomberg is not a global brand. Other than a vague association with financial market information, nobody really knows him outside the US. Clearly, not even close to the same level as Trump in terms of brand awareness.

Soros may have done good humanitarian work, but he has a face like a bulldog licking a wasp. Or a lizard chewing on a lemon...not sure which.

And what does Trump look like without his make up plastered on? Oh that's right, no one knows :pac:

Biker79

Igotadose wrote: »

Bloomberg? 3 time mayor of NYC? No paparazzi in his life? No 'reputation' issues that the NY tabloids would've seized on? Get real.

Trump's profile was well known to the NY tabloids. It's not like he fell from the sky to start the Apprentice - he was a well-known scam artist in NYC. Speaking as a long-time NYC resident with a relative that worked for the NY Daily News and NY Post, Trump having his 'friends' kill stories about him in the 'studio 54' era was commonplace. Steve Dunleavy, recently deceased columnist, was a big-time water carrier for Trump. Jimmy Breslin didn't like him at least.

George Soros deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom and a Nobel Peace prize.

Bloomberg is not a global brand. Other than a vague association with financial market information, nobody really knows him outside the US. Clearly, not even close to the same level as Trump in terms of brand awareness.

Soros may have done good humanitarian work, but he has a face like a bulldog licking a wasp. Or a lizard chewing on a lemon...not sure which.

Quin_Dub

Another day , another drop in polling from his favourite pollster

His satisfaction rating has dropped every single day since the start of the Convention.

He was at 51% Satisfaction last Saturday , and was Tweeting all about it. which was a 2 point increase described as a "surge" in satisfaction.

Today he's at 46% Approval - a 5% drop when he has been front and centre in the media all week.

If a 2 point increase is a "Surge" what is a 5 point drop?

mcmoustache

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

poorly executed combovers are not much better

So masculine.

ohnonotgmail

Igotadose wrote: »

Asking for a friend, but it seems excessive hair coloring over the age of 70 is a bad look. Aren't those chemicals kind of nasty? Usually guys let themselves go gray at that point (well, I guess Reagans and Bushes didn't.)

poorly executed combovers are not much better

Igotadose

Billy Mays wrote: »

So r̶i̶d̶i̶c̶u̶l̶o̶u̶s̶ masculine

https://mobile.twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/1299188310724628481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1299188310724628481%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theforum365.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FDannyZuker%2Fstatus%2F1299188310724628481%3Fs%3D20

Asking for a friend, but it seems excessive hair coloring over the age of 70 is a bad look. Aren't those chemicals kind of nasty? Usually guys let themselves go gray at that point (well, I guess Reagans and Bushes didn't.)

Billy Mays

So r̶i̶d̶i̶c̶u̶l̶o̶u̶s̶ masculine

https://mobile.twitter.com/DannyZuker/status/1299188310724628481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1299188310724628481%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theforum365.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FDannyZuker%2Fstatus%2F1299188310724628481%3Fs%3D20

joseywhales

God bill gates as president, my dreams come true! It's amazing the low quality that the usa put out for leadership, given the talent.

Igotadose

Biker79 wrote: »

These guys didn't build their profiles with the tabloids. Trump did.

They don't have to deal with papararzzi like Trump does.

Not sure there's anything you can do to improve the face of George Soros...other than apply a brown paper bag.

Bloomberg? 3 time mayor of NYC? No paparazzi in his life? No 'reputation' issues that the NY tabloids would've seized on? Get real.

Trump's profile was well known to the NY tabloids. It's not like he fell from the sky to start the Apprentice - he was a well-known scam artist in NYC. Speaking as a long-time NYC resident with a relative that worked for the NY Daily News and NY Post, Trump having his 'friends' kill stories about him in the 'studio 54' era was commonplace. Steve Dunleavy, recently deceased columnist, was a big-time water carrier for Trump. Jimmy Breslin didn't like him at least.

George Soros deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom and a Nobel Peace prize.

Tokyo

mike_ie wrote: »

Mod: 1800_Ladladlad - don't post in the thread again.

Mod: Threadban lifted after explanation for poster (typo).

duploelabs

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Trump has literally dozens of accusations of Sexual assault and rape, several of which are currently before the courts - or at least heading that direction.

Trump has cheated on all 3 of his wives, has admitted to grabbing women in a sexual manner , has admitted to sleeping with Porn-stars and Playboy models while married. His own wife (Ivana) accused him of physical assault and violent rape.

Joe Biden doesn't have "accusers" he has a single woman making an accusation of sexual assault. Which has been completely denied by Biden and all of his staff and employees from that time. It should absolutely be investigated and Biden has welcomed that investigation should it move forward.

The accusation is completely out of character for a man married to the same women for 45+ years (and but for the tragic death of his 1st wife , he'd likely have been married to the same woman for 50+ years).

There are no reports of Infidelity , no "locker talk" , no pay-offs , no Howard Stern interviews bragging about Sexual exploits.

Trump on the other hand if refusing to engage with any of his multitude of accusers , even refusing to provide evidence that would utterly refute the allegations from the woman if he was innocent.

Correction, he has engaged with them. To pay them off or to intimidate them into dropping their cases. As shown by Michael Cohens testimony about Stormy Daniels and Jane Doe l, the latter was under aged when Trump raped her claiming 'he could do anything he wanted'. Certainly a true masculine alpha man

Quin_Dub

ELM327 wrote: »

Why is she believed so readily but Biden's accusers are not? Now I'm no cynic....

Trump has literally dozens of accusations of Sexual assault and rape, several of which are currently before the courts - or at least heading that direction.

Trump has cheated on all 3 of his wives, has admitted to grabbing women in a sexual manner , has admitted to sleeping with Porn-stars and Playboy models while married. His own wife (Ivana) accused him of physical assault and violent rape.

Joe Biden doesn't have "accusers" he has a single woman making an accusation of sexual assault. Which has been completely denied by Biden and all of his staff and employees from that time. It should absolutely be investigated and Biden has welcomed that investigation should it move forward.

The accusation is completely out of character for a man married to the same women for 45+ years (and but for the tragic death of his 1st wife , he'd likely have been married to the same woman for 50+ years).

There are no reports of Infidelity , no "locker talk" , no pay-offs , no Howard Stern interviews bragging about Sexual exploits.

Trump on the other hand if refusing to engage with any of his multitude of accusers , even refusing to provide evidence that would utterly refute the allegations from the woman if he was innocent.

namloc1980

Biker79 wrote: »

Men who aren't masculine, tend to react negatively to traditionally masculine men. There is some evolutionary psychology at play here.

This is the key takeaway from observing Trumps detractors. Along with how readily some people will sell their souls to the reds under the bed.

Firstly, can you again explain what is traditionally masculine about a man wearing orange fake tan and heavy makeup?

Secondly, and you've been asked this multiple times, can you show us evidence that the Democrats and Biden are Communists and Marxists? Do you understand what communism and Marxism are?

Timberrrrrrrr

Biker79 wrote: »

Men who aren't masculine, tend to react negatively to traditionally masculine men. There is some evolutionary psychology at play here.

This is the key takeaway from observing Trumps detractors. Along with how readily some people will sell their souls to the reds under the bed.

Really?

I find men who aren't masculine will fawn over someone who they see to be superior and more masculine than them, its like the weak kids in the school looking at the school bully in envy wishing they could be like them.

Who would you consider to be non masculine?

joseywhales

Biker79 wrote: »

Men who aren't masculine, tend to react negatively to traditionally masculine men. There is some evolutionary psychology at play here.

This is the key takeaway from observing Trumps detractors. Along with how readily some people will sell their souls to the reds under the bed.

You heard it here first , real men vote for Trump!

Good compliant men.

Biker79

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

A large, thin skinned, orange man who can't stride down a ramp is the definition of "masculinity"? lol

Men who aren't masculine, tend to react negatively to traditionally masculine men. There is some evolutionary psychology at play here.

This is the key takeaway from observing Trumps detractors. Along with how readily some people will sell their souls to the reds under the bed.

[Deleted User]

Biker79 wrote: »

These guys didn't build their profiles with the tabloids. Trump did.

They don't have to deal with papararzzi like Trump does.

Not sure there's anything you can do to improve the face of George Soros...other than apply a brown paper bag.

Robert De niro isn't orange.... You guys have claimed everything from media appearance to him being incredibly masculine as a reason for his pretty bizarre tanning. Kennedy wore fake tan iirc, the specific reason was because his complexion wasn't healthy looking. That's the most likely reason Trump wears it... But far too much of it.

Also Soros is 90, doubt anyone is in the prime of their appearance at that stage.

LuckyLloyd

A large, thin skinned, orange man who can't stride down a ramp is the definition of "masculinity"? lol

namloc1980

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

"I have done more for african americans than any president since lincoln". Has trump heard of Lyndon Johnson?

He's a pathological liar. But if I were to guess I would say Trump has never heard of Johnson.

namloc1980

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Not in politics they aren't.

Never saw either Bush presidents wearing orange fake tan and make up. Don't think Reagan did either? Fairly successful politicians all the same.

ohnonotgmail

"I have done more for african americans than any president since lincoln". Has trump heard of Lyndon Johnson?

Biker79

Deleted User wrote: »

Warren Buffett, George Soros , Bloomberg and Bill Gates are old and incredibly rich. Weirdly none of them are orange and they're all infinitely more successful than Trump..

These guys didn't build their profiles with the tabloids. Trump did.

They don't have to deal with papararzzi like Trump does.

Not sure there's anything you can do to improve the face of George Soros...other than apply a brown paper bag.

Quin_Dub

ELM327 wrote: »

I am a Trump supporter
I've never voted SF and never will.
I do have something against Travellers as they robbed our house.
I am not racist.

To be fair to you ELM - You have always been open and consistent in your opinions.

We might disagree strongly on matters of policy etc. but I do respect that you have firmly held convictions that you are willing to defend.

Gerry Hatrick

Deleted User wrote: »

Warren Buffett, George Soros , Bloomberg and Bill Gates are old and incredibly rich. Weirdly none of them are orange and they're all infinitely more successful than Trump.. Ye all seem to be obsessed with justifying the oddest stuff. You'll also find the vast majority of older and incredibly successful actors aren't orange on the average day.

Not in politics they aren't.

[Deleted User]

Biker79 wrote: »

You'll find that people who are constantly being photographed and videoed will do exactly this.

It's do to with poor lighting.

When you are as successful as Trump is, at using the media to build himself into a global brand, it comes with the territory.

Wearing TV makeup is about protecting his investment.

Something that commies, by definition, cannot compute. Just like they cannot compute what it is to add value.

Warren Buffett, George Soros , Bloomberg and Bill Gates are old and incredibly rich. Weirdly none of them are orange and they're all infinitely more successful than Trump.. Ye all seem to be obsessed with justifying the oddest stuff. You'll also find the vast majority of older and incredibly successful actors aren't orange on the average day.

baaba maal

ELM327 wrote: »

I am a Trump supporter
I've never voted SF and never will.
I do have something against Travellers as they robbed our house.
I am not racist.

I cant speak for Quin Dub, but I rather suspect the post wasn't aimed at you- at least you are consistent in your views.

Biker79

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Traditional masculinity?

How many men do you know that are so vain they plaster on fake tan every day?

You'll find that people who are constantly being photographed and videoed will do exactly this.

It's do to with poor lighting.

When you are as successful as Trump is, at using the media to build himself into a global brand, it comes with the territory.

Wearing TV makeup is about protecting his investment.

Something that commies, by definition, cannot compute. Just like they cannot compute what it is to add value.