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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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Leroy42

Gruffalox wrote: »

You obviously do not read very well. I have no devotion to Trump. I don't watch tv, never seen a youtube of him, catch up on the very odd article here and there. Don't give a flying fcuk about him, but the anthropological observation is interesting. I do notice he did not start overseas wars. Unlike Obama. But anyway.

And if you are looking for projection from back in 2016...sorry, that is just too funny.

So you know almost nothing about him, yet find it odd that people have such opinions about him?

Do you not think it worthwhile to do some investigation to try to understand why people have such opinions, rather than simply be amused that people have opinions.

What wars did Obama start?

Tigerbaby

Given the vitriol that each side seems to exhibit for the other, I would like to know what the good posters here foresee for the USA.

Personally, I think we're in the early to mid stages of the breakup. Seccesion may well be back on the agenda, particularly if its another Electoral College victory for President Trump.

BTW, I've no axe to grind here. I always thought Jimmy Carter was the last decent ( as in a Human Being) President. His continued work on Palestine is a testament to his character. and I'm old enough to remember President Kennedy's visit.

I do try to open my eyes and ears to better understand when I'm being sold a pup. I think I'm being sold a whole kennel by BLM and their fellow travellers.

Gruffalux

mcmoustache wrote: »

You're looking at a candle and a dumpster fire and thinking they're the same. Things are a bit more complicated than that. You're also falling into that trap where you think people have the same cult-like devotion to Clinton or even Biden that you have for Trump. That's just projection and a look at the posts from 2016 would demonstrate that.

You obviously do not read very well. I have no devotion to Trump. I don't watch tv, never seen a youtube of him, catch up on the very odd article here and there. Don't give a flying fcuk about him, but the anthropological observation is interesting. I do notice he did not start overseas wars. Unlike Obama. But anyway.

And if you are looking for projection from back in 2016...sorry, that is just too funny.

mcmoustache

Gruffalox wrote: »

Butt**** Alabama...is that where the deplorables live? How did that work for your gal last time?

Come on you Biden boys and thankers all lined up with your twitchy thanks fingers. Admit the whole of American politics is in the toilet because of both sides.

You're looking at a candle and a dumpster fire and thinking they're the same. Things are a bit more complicated than that. You're also falling into that trap where you think people have the same cult-like devotion to Clinton or even Biden that you have for Trump. That's just projection and a look at the posts from 2016 would demonstrate that.

[Deleted User]

Gruffalox wrote: »

Butt**** Alabama...is that where the deplorables live? How did that work for your gal last time?

Come on you Biden boys and thankers all lined up with your twitchy thanks fingers. Admit the whole of American politics is in the toilet because of both sides.

Don't think anyone here is claiming that the Dems are perfect however they're immensely better than what's sitting in the White House at the moment. The current White House won't even recognize that the issues exist.

PropJoe10

The scenes last night at the White House for Trump's speech were disgusting and disgraceful. The US has one last chance to save itself in November from being a totalitarian state. I hope it takes it.

Gruffalux

mcmoustache wrote: »

You're hardly going to have a large protest in Buttfúck, Alabama now are you?

Protests happen in urban areas because, well, surely you can figure out why.

Butt**** Alabama...is that where the deplorables live? How did that work for your gal last time?

Come on you Biden boys and thankers all lined up with your twitchy thanks fingers. Admit the whole of American politics is in the toilet because of both sides.

namloc1980

Trumps boring and ridiculously long speech is getting widely panned, including by the sycophants at Fox News. His supporters are even struggling to put a positive spin on his very low energy performance.

Timberrrrrrrr

Billy Mays wrote: »

Old men buying a sports car and trading in the missus for a younger model being a sign of masculinity could possibly be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on here

Well Trump did trade in his last Mrs for a younger (soft porn) model so he is staying true to form.

Billy Mays

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The poster has already admitted there isn't a depth he wont sink to to defend dear leader, that's what you're up against in this thread

Old men buying a sports car and trading in the missus for a younger model being a sign of masculinity could possibly be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read on here

Timberrrrrrrr

mcmoustache wrote: »

That's pretty much the main reason that I'm here. There's a certain guilty pleasure in seeing how far anonymous names on a forum will debase themselves in defence of Trump.

I've never seen such sycophancy in my life. Even the shinners of 15 years ago weren't this deluded.

The mental gymnastics they are willing to perform to put any sort of positive spin on Trump is truly hilarious.

mcmoustache

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The poster has already admitted there isn't a depth he wont sink to to defend dear leader, that's what you're up against in this thread

That's pretty much the main reason that I'm here. There's a certain guilty pleasure in seeing how far anonymous names on a forum will debase themselves in defence of Trump.

I've never seen such sycophancy in my life. Even the shinners of 15 years ago weren't this deluded.

Tigerbaby

Tell me how wrote: »

Did you miss the 4200 posts when you rocked in here to instigate a debate?

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I did miss that extended tennis rally. Thank you for the kind question though.

Is it ok if I make some cogent and intelligent points or should I just cancel myself now?

Timberrrrrrrr

Billy Mays wrote: »

The clapping seals are in fine form this morning

Traditional masculinity ffs :pac: :pac: :pac:

The poster has already admitted there isn't a depth he wont sink to to defend dear leader, that's what you're up against in this thread

mcmoustache

Gruffalox wrote: »

Mostly in Democratic strongholds.

You're hardly going to have a large protest in Buttfúck, Alabama now are you?

Protests happen in urban areas because, well, surely you can figure out why.

Billy Mays

The clapping seals are in fine form this morning

Traditional masculinity ffs :pac: :pac: :pac:

namloc1980

Gruffalox wrote: »

Mostly in Democratic strongholds.

Nothing to do with Trump right? So why is he the man to fix it and why will things get worse under Biden (as almost all speakers at the RNC claimed) if these issues are purely local or state issues and nothing to do with the President?

Timberrrrrrrr

Gruffalox wrote: »

Mostly in Democratic strongholds.

But Don said

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/398887965302091776?s=20

mcmoustache

ELM327 wrote: »

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

Erm, that kind of thing is widely considered pathetic.

Gruffalux

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Aren't all these things happening right now? On Trumps watch?

Mostly in Democratic strongholds.

mcmoustache

namloc1980 wrote: »

The fake tan and makeup screams traditional masculinity alright. The knots you Trumpists tie yourselves in must be absolutely exhausting.

Yep. Super macho.

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Gruffalux

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

it was a trump supporter who brought it up. another example of the ridiculous cultist behaviour from trump supporters.

I know it was a Trump supporter who brought it up. But you did not believe me when I said I would not vote Trump.
It is all vile. Last week Kamala believed the women who said Joe copped a feel until he offered her a bite of his hamburger. The Dems had a chance to be truly radical. Gabbard, Yang. That would have been exciting and inspiring. But nope. Couldn't give a shyte what happens to them now. They will get what they deserve either way.They made their graffiti-ruined fire-bombed bed. Their neurosis from wearing knitted vaginas on their heads( and then having existential crises about the poor women without vaginas who were thus left out) to cheering on looters like proud parents will reward them.

Leroy42

Gruffalox wrote: »

This BS inserted about traditional masculinity or feminity is ridiculous. Melania is not elegant because she is a traditionalist. She has great genes. She is undeniably gorgeous however shallow that may be. My point was mainly the completely psychopathic hysteria about her aesthetic both personally and in the wider sphere has been hilarious. The same people would be drooling over people on "their side" who did the same as her. The point is the whole derangement in general commentary. Both sides have so many vile people making commentary. It is all disgusting

I have no issue with Melania's looks, what she wears etc. I see her as simply doing a job (that she and no other person really should be expected to do) but a tradition that becoming POTUS means that your partner then becomes important.

Where I have an issue with Melania is her clear hypocrisy. She goes on about Be Best, yet her husband belittles people. SHe scorns on line abuse, yet says nothing when her husband retweets conspiracy theories and abuses people online.

She says the country needs an honest president, while saying Trump is the best man for the job - he even lies to her - how she has any faith in him is beyond me so why is she asking others to believe him.

We had Trump blame HC in 2016 for standing by her man after he had affairs, and yet we are supposed to believe anything that Melania says when she stands up for Trump?

mcmoustache

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

The left despise her because she is beautiful and intelligent.

It's the birther stuff. Thinking that it's about her beauty and intelligence is childish. Think about it to yourself for a minute.

ohnonotgmail

ELM327 wrote: »

No.

i didnt think there was a depth you wouldn't sink to to defend trump but very honest of you to confirm it.

ohnonotgmail

Gruffalox wrote: »

This BS inserted about traditional masculinity or feminity is ridiculous. Melania is not elegant because she is a traditionalist. She has great genes. She is undeniably gorgeous however shallow that may be. My point was mainly the completely psychopathic hysteria about her aesthetic both personally and in the wider sphere has been hilarious. The same people would be drooling over people on "their side" who did the same as her. The point is the whole derangement in general commentary. Both sides have so many vile people making commentary. It is all disgusting

it was a trump supporter who brought it up. another example of the ridiculous cultist behaviour from trump supporters.

[Deleted User]

ELM327 wrote: »

It espouses a typical masculine value of clinging to youth as you are aging. Same as buying a flash sports car or trading the wife for a younger model.

In fairness, what you're describing is a man who's trying to compensate for his vulnerabilities or having a midlife crisis. And Trump has been tanning up for decades.. It's extreme vanity.

ELM327 wrote: »

No.

Thanks for confirming.

ELM327

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so you think wearing makeup is traditionally masculine? is there any depth to which you wont sink in order to defend trump?

No.

Timberrrrrrrr

namloc1980 wrote: »

Oh man that is absolutely hilarious. An order man wearing heavy makeup and fake tan is now "a typical masculine value of clinging to youth"!! Funniest post I've seen in a long time :pac:

How old does one have to be before its OK to wear thick fake tan to have typical masculine values?

Asking for a friend

baaba maal

Gruffalox wrote: »

It probably won't although I can see the point of sending in reinforcements to areas being burned by bored and neurotic frat kids high on the stink of idiotic identity politics.
Biden winning would be like rewarding screaming toddlers. But there is a big part of me hopes he wins so the Dems have to deal with the idiocy they have fostered whereby college dorms are going back to racial segregation, people can be mobbed in public if they do not kneel or raise a fist, and big strapping boys will be beating the girls in athletics and taking their scholarships.

The issues you raise as being the ones most pertinent after the election mark you out as somebody who is equally submerged into identity politics.