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How many people on Boards have a mask and if so are you wearing them for essential trips? And this late in the day where can you get one that is going to be half decent and not from a suspect seller who could have done anything to it?

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xhomelezz

one world order wrote: »

I haven't worn a mask during this fear induced media craze and I won't be either. I also won't be taking their vaccine when the government forces it on the population. Sweden haven't bothered with this world agenda and we should be moving back to normality rather than forcing people to do things they wouldn't normally do, based on a virus with a death rate of less than 0.1%.

Glad to see someone has his facts right

GT89

odyssey06 wrote: »

The excess mortality figures are independent of the official toll. That the official toll is corrected shows they are taken seriously and follow a proper methodology.
The adjusted UK death toll still shows tens of thousand of deaths.
But sure, you have shown with your moral bankruptcy you don't care how many people died.

You'll have to show me some actual figures on the other scenarios for any of this to be believable.
How many people died from suicide or drugs from March to June 2020?

Well then maybe the crisis is over and it's mutated into a weaker strain common trends across Europe shows cases skyrocketing but deaths very low.

Spiderman0081

Finland has spent a few million euros testing kids in school for coranavirus up to the age of 10. The goal was to see if there is any evidence that kids that have returned to school are spreaders of the virus and if so, are masks necessary for children. 11,000 children were tested after returning to school. 5 children tested positive, 0.045%.

Yellow_Fern

Spiderman0081 wrote: »

Finland has spent a few million euros testing kids in school for coranavirus up to the age of 10. The goal was to see if there is any evidence that kids that have returned to school are spreaders of the virus and if so, are masks necessary for children. 11,000 children were tested after returning to school. 5 children tested positive, 0.045%.

Great idea. There is way too much negativity about sending kids to school at the moment.

i_surge

Off topic but isn't it so easy to manipulate people with just a few seeds of (mis)information to get the predicted reaction and to solidify that opinion with the power of anger and outrage. Once they are pissed off they will cling to that view for dear life. Fight for it on the streets. Use psuedo experts for credibility points.

Light the fuse and run, let their limited grasp on reality do the rest.

Seanergy

GT89 wrote: »

Well then maybe the crisis is over and it's mutated into a weaker strain common trends across Europe shows cases skyrocketing but deaths very low.

Common trend across Europe is mask wearing. It was said early on that masks will reduce the viral load and therefore reduce mortality was it not?

GT89

Seanergy wrote: »

Common trend across Europe is mask wearing. It was said early on that masks will reduce the viral load and therefore reduce mortality was it not?

Well if mask wearing is effective why are cases up thought the idea of masks was to stop the spread of the virus. Secondly if mask wearing reduces viral loads and protects the induvidual from the virus then it shouldn't be mandatory if I want to not wear one and put myself "at risk" then that should my prerogative.

Ha Long Bay

GT89 wrote: »

Well if mask wearing is effective why are cases up thought the idea of masks was to stop the spread of the virus.

Secondly if mask wearing reduces viral loads and protects the individual from the virus then it shouldn't be mandatory if I want to not wear one and put myself "at risk" then that should my prerogative.

Are either of these questions actually genuine or are you just attempting to get a reaction?

They have both been answered multiple times already in this and other threads.

Hrududu

MadYaker wrote: »

No we weren't. You do this constantly. Just make up random events from the past that never happened to justify some nonsense point. Makes you sound like a nutter. Can you find a single headline from anywhere about people dropping dead in the streets from covid?

To be fair, and I’m not sure if the poster is thinking about the same thing I am. I don’t remember there being headlines or any legit reports of that happening. But it was one of those things flying around in the early days. People were sharing YouTube videos of people falling down in the street and saying it was people in China who had Covid. In fact if you go back to one of the earlier threads on here you will probably find posts from people who were convinced the videos were real and who were freaking out about it. I remember at the time some people questioning the veracity of the videos. But when this was in the early days there were definitely people online stirring the pot by sharing things like that.

Edit: Found an article discussing the videos and questioning the authenticity. I feel dirty as it’s the daily mail. But just an example that these things were going around at the time:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7923981/Coronavirus-Disturbing-videos-claim-people-collapsing-Wuhan.html

Away With The Fairies

GT89 wrote: »

Well if mask wearing is effective why are cases up thought the idea of masks was to stop the spread of the virus. Secondly if mask wearing reduces viral loads and protects the induvidual from the virus then it shouldn't be mandatory if I want to not wear one and put myself "at risk" then that should my prerogative.

Did you hear about the mask protest last week? All those people that attended, that's the reason cases are going up.

bush

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Did you hear about the mask protest last week? All those people that attended, that's the reason cases are going up.

No its not

Loafing Oaf

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/tinssoldier/status/1298101693247193089

After a woman with the coronavirus visited a Starbucks cafe north of Seoul this month, more than two dozen patrons tested positive days later.

:eek:

Can we call her a super-duper spreader?
What was she doing, going round sneezing on people?

GT89

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Did you hear about the mask protest last week? All those people that attended, that's the reason cases are going up.

Where was the BLM spike in numbers then?

Away With The Fairies

bush wrote: »

No its not

Maybe not those people at the protests. It's still early days for symptoms to show up.

But there's guaranteed more anti maskers around the country.

Away With The Fairies

GT89 wrote: »

Where was the BLM spike in numbers then?

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/black-lives-matter-protest-takes-place-in-dublin-1.4272820%3fmode=amp

A video from BLM protests in Dublin. What do you see on their faces?

GT89

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/black-lives-matter-protest-takes-place-in-dublin-1.4272820%3fmode=amp

A video from BLM protests in Dublin. What do you see on their faces?

They weren't all wearing masks. Plenty were not

Graham

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/black-lives-matter-protest-takes-place-in-dublin-1.4272820%3fmode=amp

A video from BLM protests in Dublin. What do you see on their faces?

Good to see so many wearing masks even back almost 2 months.

GT89

Zoom in can clearly see some not wearing muzzles
https://twitter.com/deric_tv/status/1267536903823396864?s=19

Away With The Fairies

GT89 wrote: »

Zoom in can clearly see some not wearing muzzles
https://twitter.com/deric_tv/status/1267536903823396864?s=19

The majority of them were. The two protests cannot be compared. The majority of people at the BLM protests were wearing masks... And people at the anti-mask protest weren't.

Ha Long Bay

GT89 wrote: »

Zoom in can clearly see some not wearing muzzles
https://twitter.com/deric_tv/status/1267536903823396864?s=19

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The majority of them were. The two protests cannot be compared. The majority of people at the BLM protests were wearing masks... And people at the anti-mask protest weren't.

Don't waste your time replying or taking them serious hopefully the bridge will collapse soon.

GT89

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The majority of them were. The two protests cannot be compared. The majority of people at the BLM protests were wearing masks... And people at the anti-mask protest weren't.

But all it takes is a few people not wearing them to spread it by your logic. It wasn't only BLM no masks at any of Gemma and John Waters' protests either and no spike in numbers. It's not the majority it's literally about 50/50 in that photo.

Graham

GT89 wrote: »

all it takes is a few people not wearing them to spread it

all the more reason for everyone to wear them.

GT89

Graham wrote: »

all the more reason for everyone to wear them.

I was responding to a poster who was accusing the spike in cv19 figures on a protest that took place on Custom House Quay in Dublin where the vast majority of protestors did not wear muzzles. I refuted this by saying there was no spike after BLM protests in Dublin despite only some protestor wearing muzzles

gozunda

Spiderman0081 wrote: »

Finland has spent a few million euros testing kids in school for coranavirus up to the age of 10. The goal was to see if there is any evidence that kids that have returned to school are spreaders of the virus and if so, are masks necessary for children. 11,000 children were tested after returning to school. 5 children tested positive, 0.045%.

I would presume that the design of any such study would have been carried out on a phased basis and not presumably on the immediate return of children to school.

Otherwise the results are meaningless tbh.

washman3

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The majority of them were. The two protests cannot be compared. The majority of people at the BLM protests were wearing masks... And people at the anti-mask protest weren't.

A person attending an anti-mask protest wouldn't generally wear a mask...;)

From what i can see from the BLM protest a large amount of them wore masks to hide their identity rather than worrying about a virus.
As for some of those that were wearing them, take a good look at the state of them..!! The mask was actually doing them a big favour....

Tokyo

GT89 wrote: »

I was responding to a poster who was accusing the spike in cv19 figures on a protest that took place on Custom House Quay in Dublin where the vast majority of protestors did not wear muzzles. I refuted this by saying there was no spike after BLM protests in Dublin despite only some protestor wearing muzzles

GT89 wrote: »

Zoom in can clearly see some not wearing muzzles

Mod: the 'muzzles' rhetoric has been called out again and again at this stage, and you refuse to listen. Don't post in the thread again please.

bodhrandude

GT89 wrote: »

I was responding to a poster who was accusing the spike in cv19 figures on a protest that took place on Custom House Quay in Dublin where the vast majority of protestors did not wear muzzles. I refuted this by saying there was no spike after BLM protests in Dublin despite only some protestor wearing muzzles

Muzzles are for preventing sheep dogs from biting sheep, pretty different from masks I think, I'm sure some poster was warned in the past, maybe you about mentioning muzzles.

Spiderman0081

gozunda wrote: »

I would presume that the design of any such study would have been carried out on a phased basis and not presumably on the immediate return of children to school.

Otherwise the results are meaningless tbh.

You would presume correctly

McGiver

odyssey06 wrote:

Czech repulic didn't follow the European agenda on masks in Spring and look at how many lives they saved by showing initiative. They are the example we should be following.

That's right. Actually, the Czech epidemiologists challenged the WHO re masks. That's what you call leadership.

There was no European agenda, the EU has no Competence in health care and it was all just chaotic - Italy, Spain, France and UK were struggling to think what to do.

patnor1011

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Maybe not those people at the protests. It's still early days for symptoms to show up.

But there's guaranteed more anti maskers around the country.

Can you please clarify something for me? I am genuinely confused here. I am getting lost in this modern way of talking - mainly where some labels are being applied and then used to prove some point.
It seems to me that if we say "anti maskers" we mean people who are against masks. They do not want them and they do not want others in them. It seems pretty straightforward but how do we label everyone else then? If we are to going to call each other by some names which are usually derogatory should we all do it then?

If people are for wearing a mask is it ok to call them "masker"? Is it sufficiently insulting or should we come up with more punching name?

Then there is even more complicated problem. How do we call people who have nothing against other people wearing masks yet will not wear them themselves for one reason or another. They clearly are not "maskers" or "anti maskers". What are they?