GT89 wrote: » Tbh if there is a vaccine within the next year or so I will be highly suspect. Vaccines take a long time to develop. It will make me think that this came from a lab and released as a targeted bio weapon and the vaccine is to be realeased as part of a problem reaction solution. Problem= Covid 1984 Reaction= lockdowns, masks, social distancing, fear, tensions and unrest Solution= Mass vacination, cashless society and surveillance
3wayswitch wrote: » When you touch an item and put it in your trolley, you only touch it for a brief period of time before you put in into your trolley and then the cashier only touches it for a few seconds while scanning it. Presumably you have also sanitized your hands while going into the store which should make it safer for both of you to touch your items. The risk here is minimal. With cash however there are a lot of unknowns. Has the person been holding their coins in the hands for the past 30 mins before coming into the store? Has the person been storing their cash somewhere where they should like their bra where it might get exposed to sweat? (yes I have seen this happen in person). One contaminated coin in a cash register could contaminate other coins which then get handed out to multiple people. While I wouldn't consider money to be a high risk source of infection, it's easy to see why it would be a higher risk than the items in your shopping trolley. If a single life could be saved by asking people to try using their credit cards instead of cash, then I think it's worth it.
Tork wrote: » Ooh I bet you loved it when this came up. We all know covid isn't spread by sweat and doesn't leak through the skin. Did you or any of the other anti-maskers here go to the protest at the weekend? If not, why not? Looks like it was right up your street.
bush wrote: » I've seen someone wear one of those it looks like they aren't wearing anything from a distance. How are they held in place? It just goes to show people will wear any old ****e to abide the rule.
i_surge wrote: » Multifactorial problem It is known that deaths go down during recessions/depressions and this was the same. Fewer traffic and work accidents and so on. So there are two sides to that see-saw.
washman3 wrote: » Both traffic and workplace deaths are higher so far in 2020 than in 2019. Another theory blown out of the water. Total deaths from all causes so far in 2020 are nearly 700 less than 2019. Still looking for somebody to explain. Was there a Pandemic in 2019 that we did'nt know or were'nt told about...!!!
odyssey06 wrote: » Suggest masks thread is not the best place to look for answers other than to say that as we have maintained better hygiene practices, distancing, mask wearing since coming out of lockdown it could well be that that there are less other germs \ viruses etc out there circulating.
washman3 wrote: » Explain why positive cases have rocketed since mask wearing has become mandatory in the last few weeks. Was'nt mask wearing supposed to REDUCE the number of new cases.??
robinph wrote: » Can you explain the science behind your theory of how masks have increased transmission for us?
odyssey06 wrote: » I think you already know the explanation if you have been paying any attention to the phased easing of restrictions in this country. We're not in lockdown any more. Also, our case count and death count dropped dramatically in late April when mask wearing was rolled out in general use in health and care settings.
washman3 wrote: » Point out where i said mask wearing increased transmission. You are the one suggesting this. Read my post again.
washman3 wrote: » Mask wearing was rolled out in general use only a few weeks ago, certainly not April. Maybe it was in healthcare settings. In shopping centres in late July only a minority were wearing masks.
robinph wrote: » Hang on, are you now claiming that mask wearing has nothing to to with any current changes in the number of infections due to it being common among the general public only more recently? Or are you sticking with wearing masks is the cause of the increase in infections?
washman3 wrote: » Go on roundabouts all you like but the figures are there. Mask wearing over the last few weeks has not decreased cases. The cases have actually increased. I want you to explain that. Forget this 'Meat Factory' bluff. All the meat factories were operating during the lockdown. And there were just as many house partys during the lockdown than there are now. Nowhere did i claim that masks increased transmission. But the evidence is there, cases are up. Explain why.!!
saneman wrote: » I mean it's just a bit of fabric, you don't have to staple gun them to your face, they have ear loops...
washman3 wrote: » I know exactly what they are. Have been wearing them for years on end at work. Safely can say that i may know more about them than many here. When i hear someone suggest that a piece of cloth covering your nose and mouth will prevent a virus one millionth of a millimeter from passing through, i don't know whether to laugh or cry. Forget about this 'virus in droplet guff..!! The only mask that may be in any way viable is the surgical type used in operating theatres, but those are only effective in such environments, which are sterile and single use only. Do you ever see a surgeon wearing one walking around a hospital. Would love to check and see what some of you folks round here were 'experts' on a year ago....;)
Sconsey wrote: » So we say once someone hits 80 they are a lost cause, good riddance to them. It doesn't suit your lifestyle to make a really small effort to support them. Occasionally wearing a mask is that big of an imposition to you. Thanks God you are in the vast minority.
washman3 wrote: » When i hear someone suggest that a piece of cloth covering your nose and mouth will prevent a virus one millionth of a millimeter from passing through, i don't know whether to laugh or cry. Forget about this 'virus in droplet guff..!!
robinph wrote: » So how does the virus travel around again then?
washman3 wrote: » Just like the mad professor Luke O'Neill told you some time back...;)
