saneman wrote: » Oh i'm thinking about.. i don't think i could give you my true answer tho as i'd prefer not to be threadbanned. How about this one: If places are pushing through cashless payments (been around for quite a few years now, mind) why do people not want to wear masks? Equally baffling enough?
GT89 wrote: » I'm not against cashless payments as an addtional convenient option for people but not as a replacement for cash. Why are places using covid 1984 as a guise to encourage people to use contactless payments and in some cases point blank refusing cash.
john4321 wrote: » I tried that here by responding to your post about the Russian vaccine but didn't get much a reply.
patnor1011 wrote: » You did. In the last part of what you quoted. To put it another way - corona viruses vaccines are pretty much pointless. Antibodies do not tend to be useful for any meaningful time. Focusing on treatment is what will serve us much better.
GT89 wrote: » Answer me this question? If covid is transmitted through coughing, sneezing and even speaking why are places pushing cashless payments? Please think about it
John O.Groats wrote: » I would answer that it`s to reduce the risk of transmitting the virus by not handling potentially infected notes and coins but no doubt Mulder and Scully and yourself have diferent reasons.
GT89 wrote: » But the disease is not transmitted through money
John O.Groats wrote: » Says who?
i_surge wrote: » Did you not read the latest missive from Professor Cahill?
Strumms wrote: » Cashless means the staff member doesn’t need to touch or interact with cash, cash can carry the virus. Ring up total, you put in your card, pin enter, transaction complete... less talking, jabbering too. Can have an electronic “please enter your pin” as I’ve witnessed.
John O.Groats wrote: » No nor do I intend to.
GT89 wrote: » The real reason most shops are doing it is to reduce cash handling costs but use covid 1984 as a convenient excuse as card payments do not require floats, staff to count the days takings, safes to store them in and G4S vans to come and collect. Why can't they just be open and honest.
i_surge wrote: » Ah John, full of fun facts and new ways to be safe. You can snort the bleach if you happen to have interacted with someone wearing a mask. We know they only make your more likely to infect yourself. Also you know you can infect yourself now, auto covid 1984 they are calling it, it is a new strain of it but the most dominant. Best protection is internet trolling.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Read 1984
john4321 wrote: » Well to be fair I made no real comment at all. I just pointed out the Russian vaccine you praised is what appears to me only going into phase 3 trials tomorrow. "The Oxford vaccine entered phase 3 trials in July.https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...an-trials.aspx" How you took from that: "In the last part of what you quoted. To put it another way - corona viruses vaccines are pretty much pointless. Antibodies do not tend to be useful for any meaningful time."
john4321 wrote: » There is twisting words and just clearly making up lies.
patnor1011 wrote: » How about we stop and take a breath here? Let us go back and read again what we said? I did not react on your post as I did not want to keep discussing vaccines in masks thread as I said at the end of my post. You were looking for answer to your post comparing some vaccines and when I said that it is "In the last part of what you quoted" I simply meant my post which you quoted - to which you originally reacted which was: "There will be vaccine, quite a few of them actually due to huge demand for it. Effectiveness will vary as it is the case with most of modern vaccines but I would not put my faith in this direction too much. Corona viruses vaccines are complicated to start with and viruses are mutating as they go and if flu vaccines are any indication - it is a hit and miss, with more of a miss mostly. Since disease is mostly a mild one if symptoms even develop I would focus more on the looking for a treatment." So the answer to your comparison is that I think treatment is a way to go and not trying to figure out which one may be better. What twisting words? What lies? Perhaps this is why I did not react to your post. People see Russia and stop reading but look for a fight.
Hunky Monster wrote: » Ridiculous. A man on his own working on a car in his driveway alone wearing a mask. Jesus wept.
ShineOn7 wrote: » re: the protests in Dublin yesterdayhttps://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/266173494/south-korea-warns-its-on-brink-of-nationwide-pandemic
i_surge wrote: » Multifactorial problem It is known that deaths go down during recessions/depressions and this was the same. Fewer traffic and work accidents and so on. So there are two sides to that see-saw.
xhomelezz wrote: » Amazing how many people can overthink one simple measure. Can't wait to see who's gonna start Washing hands thread and throw in all kind of conspiracy theories and philosophical questions around that simple task
GT89 wrote: » Tbh if there is a vaccine within the next year or so I will be highly suspect. Vaccines take a long time to develop. It will make me think that this came from a lab and released as a targeted bio weapon and the vaccine is to be realeased as part of a problem reaction solution. Problem= Covid 1984 Reaction= lockdowns, masks, social distancing, fear, tensions and unrest Solution= Mass vacination, cashless society and surveillance
ginoginelli wrote: » I'm seeing a lot of people wearing a different type of visor. These ones barely go down to the mouth, so if the wearer raises his chin slightly basically the whole face is exposed. Why the f#$% are the goverment even allowing these things? They offer little to none protection and give a false sense of security. We are so behind in this country on covid preventive measures its embarrassing. Embarrassing and dangerous.
weldoninhio wrote: » If handling stuff transmits it so contagiously that we can’t use cash, how come if I’ve a trolley load of stuff. I touch it to put it on the belt, the cashier touches it to scan it and I pack it. Why haven’t we all been pushed to self scan?? Bit of a contradiction there. I can’t touch your cash, it might be infected, but I’ll touch every single piece of shopping you’ve bought.
bush wrote: » I've seen someone wear one of those it looks like they aren't wearing anything from a distance. How are they held in place? It just goes to show people will wear any old ****e to abide the rule.
3wayswitch wrote: » When you touch an item and put it in your trolley, you only touch it for a brief period of time before you put in into your trolley and then the cashier only touches it for a few seconds while scanning it. Presumably you have also sanitized your hands while going into the store which should make it safer for both of you to touch your items. The risk here is minimal. With cash however there are a lot of unknowns. Has the person been holding their coins in the hands for the past 30 mins before coming into the store? Has the person been storing their cash somewhere where they should like their bra where it might get exposed to sweat? (yes I have seen this happen in person). One contaminated coin in a cash register could contaminate other coins which then get handed out to multiple people. While I wouldn't consider money to be a high risk source of infection, it's easy to see why it would be a higher risk than the items in your shopping trolley. If a single life could be saved by asking people to try using their credit cards instead of cash, then I think it's worth it.
