2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I think that if you actually cared about this, you wouldn't be posting snarky comments.

Apologies if I came across as snarky. Look, we cannot seriously call Biden compassionate when we consider what he did to Libya.

ancapailldorcha

Kidchameleon wrote: »

I really think he's a great guy and part of your dislike of him is a result of the propoganda of the mainstream media. He's not perfect but certainly charming

I was thinking recently that I'd not heard the tired old MSM trope in a while. You have the right to consume only media that conforms to your views. Dressing it up like this is just incredibly transparent.

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Apologies if I came across as snarky. Look, we cannot seriously call Biden compassionate when we consider what he did to Libya.

I don't know what may or may not have happened to Libya. I won't be learning about it here either.

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Pity he wasnt so compassionate to the people of Libya

Pity Trump wasn't so compassionate to the people of the USA.

When challenged by Axios’ Jonathan Swan that 1,000 Americans are dying every day, the president said: “It is what it is”.

Cody montana

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Apologies if I came across as snarky. Look, we cannot seriously call Biden compassionate when we consider what he did to Libya.

What did he do to Libya?

joseywhales wrote: »

You must be one of these leftists then? Since Trump is such a big proponent of tariffs which is the opposite of a free market policy.

The 2 Trillion covid bailout, is that a free market policy also?

International trade tariffs have nothing to do with domestic free markets.

Bailouts have nothing to do with undue interference with free markets. They are compensation for the impactful action taken to handle the pandemic.

So, there is a clear difference between managing a free market, and replacing it.

duploelabs wrote: »

I wasn't asking you, I wanted the opinion of the person I was replying to

He hit the nail on the head. Its been discussed on other threads.

Deleted User wrote: »

Shall we discuss the various awful things Trump has done? Even as of late, he didn't care that 170k people had died... Then there's separating children from their parents. But the sharks thing was "charming"...

The policy of separating children from parents at migration centres was well under way under Obama. I believe the figures are much higher under the Obama administration.

You cant compare old people dying of Covid, who already had comorbidities, with the violent deaths of Libyan civilians who would not have died otherwise, thanks to Biden.

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Personally I am not bothered by that. Found it quite charming.

What a moron, he hasn't got the center of gravity of the shark between his shoulder blades. He is going to topple over, a bit like the time he walked down that 3 degree ramp.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Pity Trump wasn't so compassionate to the people of the USA.

He didnt cause Covid. And to a straight talker, it is what it is. I understand that some people might be more sensitive to bluntness & thats fine. The polls will tell weather the people of America blame him for Covid.

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

He didnt cause Covid. And to a straight talker, it is what it is. I understand that some people might be more sensitive to bluntness & thats fine. The polls will tell weather the people of America blame him for Covid.

So he is a straight talker, but compassionate and charming?

Trump Derangement Syndrome is alive and well in this thread :pac:

Sonics2k

Yup, it's all right here. Biden has clearly lost his mind, just rambling nonsense from a few years ago.

"“I have broken more Elton John records. He seems to have a lot of records. And I, by the way, I don’t have a musical instrument. I don’t have a guitar or an organ. No organ. Elton has an organ. And lots of other people helping. No, we’ve broken a lot of records. We’ve broken virtually every record. Because you know, look, I only need this space. They need much more room. For basketball, for hockey and all of the sports, they need a lot of room. We don’t need it. We have people in that space. So we break all of these records. Really, we do it without, like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical – the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth, right? The brain. More important than the mouth is the brain. The brain is much more important.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-elton-john-696490/

Ah just kidding this was Trump. Stable genius, not at all making it up as he went along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYNVH0U3cs

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So he is a straight talker, but compassionate and charming?

Trump Derangement Syndrome is alive and well in this thread :pac:

Classic leftism BTW.

When you lose, change the goalposts or the meaning of words to change the result. Not everyone is fooled though.

TDS is the mass hysteria experienced by vulnerable consumers of media leading to an irrational hatred of Trump .

Biker79 wrote: »

International trade tariffs have nothing to do with domestic free markets.

Bailouts have nothing to do with undue interference with free markets. They are compensation for the impactful action taken to handle the pandemic.

So, there is a clear difference between managing a free market, and replacing it.

Not, an economist then, eh.

Timberrrrrrrr

Biker79 wrote: »

Classic leftism BTW.

When you lose, change the goalposts or the meaning of words to change the result. Not everyone is fooled though.

TDS is the mass hysteria experienced by vulnerable consumers of media leading to an irrational hatred of Trump .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYNVH0U3cs

But I didnt care when Hilary lost

I'm not "left" I believe in the death sentence for certain crimes, I believe in gun ownership. I have no idea why or how you can consider me to be "leftist" when you don't even know me.

Dislike of Trump and his stupidity does not make me a "lefty", why is it that Trump supporters feel the need to label anyone who doesn't cheer for dear leader as "left"?

Biker79 wrote: »

You cant compare old people dying of Covid, who already had comorbidities, with the violent deaths of Libyan civilians who would not have died otherwise, thanks to Biden.

The "very fine people" won't be happy with you elevating islamists lives above american lives. Get with the program.

pjohnson

Biker79 wrote: »

Classic leftism BTW.

When you lose, change the goalposts or the meaning of words to change the result. Not everyone is fooled though.

TDS is the mass hysteria experienced by vulnerable consumers of media leading to an irrational hatred of Trump .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYNVH0U3cs

By god does every trump fan have that clip top of their spank bank?

That woman could be a millionaire the amount of lads that have a fetish for her.

Biker79 wrote: »

The policy of separating children from parents at migration centres was well under way under Obama. I believe the figures are much higher under the Obama administration.
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This lie has already been addressed in this forum with supporting evidence. @Kidchameleon you were party to that discussion, so why are you now thanking this post where the lie is repeated?

Tell me how

Biker79 wrote: »

TDS is the mass hysteria experienced by vulnerable consumers of media leading to an irrational hatred of Trump .

We are watching him, listening to him, and reading his own Tweets.

It's very rational to be repulsed by the idea that such a charlatan is the President of the US.

Tell me how wrote: »

We are watching him, listening to him, and reading his own Tweets.

It's very rational to be repulsed by the idea that such a charlatan is the President of the US.

Actually, that's complete nonsense.

Trump was elected under a free and fair system. So, a rational response if you did not support him would be:

' I don't like this candidate but he was voted in by the majority of my countrymen, therefore as a responsible citizen, I fully accept and support this outcome. I will, however, vote against him in 4 years time ' .

This would be the attitude of a well-adjusted adult who liked his/ her country. Instead, there are all these poor TDS sufferers....its really terrible. Obviously, its nothing to do with Trump himself and signifies a deeper malaise within this cohort.

joseywhales

Biker79 wrote: »

International trade tariffs have nothing to do with domestic free markets.

Bailouts have nothing to do with undue interference with free markets. They are compensation for the impactful action taken to handle the pandemic.

So, there is a clear difference between managing a free market, and replacing it.

You said free market not domestic free market.

I will start with the wiki definition of a free market:

In economics, a free market is a system in which the prices for goods and services are self-regulated by the open market and by consumers. In a free market, the laws and forces of supply and demand are free from any intervention by a government or other authority, and from all forms of economic privilege, monopolies and artificial scarcities.[1] Proponents of the concept of free market contrast it with a regulated market in which a government intervenes in supply and demand through various methods such as tariffs used to restrict trade and to protect the local economy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market

I know, it's wiki, I can make more effort if you wish to continue.

Regarding the covid bailouts do you believe that that does not constitute government intervention in the market?

By the way you cannot manage a free market, that is an oxymoron.

1800_Ladladlad

Sniffy sniffy

timsey tiger wrote: »

This lie has already been addressed in this forum with supporting evidence. @Kidchameleon you were party to that discussion, so why are you now thanking this post where the lie is repeated?

A thank is not necessarily an endorsement.

Tell me how

Biker79 wrote: »

Actually, that's complete nonsense.

Trump was elected under a free and fair system. So, a rational response if you did not support him would be:

' I don't like this candidate but he was voted in by the majority of my countrymen, therefore as a responsible citizen, I fully accept and support this outcome. I will, however, vote against him in 4 years time ' .

This would be the attitude of a well-adjusted adult who liked his/ her country. Instead, there are all these poor TDS sufferers....its really terrible. Obviously, its nothing to do with Trump himself and signifies a deeper malaise within this cohort.

I never disputed the manner in which he was elected.

But I am not going to ignore everything I have watched him say or do, or listened to him say, or read what he has written in the nearly 4 years since he won the election.

Are you suggesting that you like him purely because of who he was, or who you thought he was prior to the election in 2016? Have you been in a coma since then or missed everything that has gone on?

[Deleted User]

Kidchameleon wrote: »

A thank is not necessarily an endorsement.

What is it then?

[Deleted User]

I wonder if there will be a Biden derangement syndrome among some posters here in a few months when Biden starts to un**** Trumps mess.

namloc1980

Biker79 wrote: »

Actually, that's complete nonsense.

Trump was elected under a free and fair system. So, a rational response if you did not support him would be:

' I don't like this candidate but he was voted in by the majority of my countrymen, therefore as a responsible citizen, I fully accept and support this outcome. I will, however, vote against him in 4 years time ' .

This would be the attitude of a well-adjusted adult who liked his/ her country. Instead, there are all these poor TDS sufferers....its really terrible. Obviously, its nothing to do with Trump himself and signifies a deeper malaise within this cohort.

Now that's complete nonsense. In essense you are saying that the Dear Leader and any politician for that matter is immune from criticism between elections. That people may only express an opinion at the next election. Interesting view of democracy you have there, although it aligns with Trump's view (free press are the enemy of the people etc) so not particularly surprising.

Tell me how

Deleted User wrote: »

I wonder if there will be a Biden derangement syndrome among some posters here in a few months when Biden starts to un**** Trumps mess.

Presuming Biden wins, which is by no means guaranteed, I pretty much guarantee what we will see here within a few days of him being inaugurated is something like the following.

On BLM: 'What is needed is a strong President to stand up to this nonsense.

On Covid. Why are people still dying? Isn't Biden President now? I thought all you guys said Trump was the problem?

There's still going to be problems in the world, America's response is still going to fall short, or tick people off, Climate concern is still going to be an issue about which not enough is being done, but, hopefully, none of these problems will be exacerbated purely because of the ineptitude of a single person which is what has happened over the last 4 years.

1990sman

trump seems normal, at least the best normal they have. meanwhile back in ireland...