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Anyone hazard a guess for when the gyms will re-open

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I reckon anywhere from 3-6 months

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Black Sheep

caviardreams wrote: »

There's a guy in my FF who was an equipment hog at the best of times but last week whilst I was using the leg curl machine he was doing a circuit of:

Leg press (marked by a large sweaty towel)
Trap bar deads - marked with plates left on
Bench with a phone and small towel - not actually sure what he was using this for - just resting his stuff maybe :rolleyes:
Hack Squat machine - marked with a 2L water bottle

Moving between them all with rests in between each exercise too.
He comes over to me when I'm on my 2nd last set and asks if I am nearly finished on the leg curl. I took an extra minute rest for the last set deliberately whilst he kept looking over.

Then after I clean it and leave, he goes over to it and pops two plates on to mark it and doesn't even use it yet.

Unreal.

Does a few more sets of various bits (including one on the leg curl), and then NOT A SINGLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT CLEANED OR A SINGLE PLATE REMOVED _ just strolls into the changing rooms with all his bits and bobs in tow.

I was in disbelief tbh.

Definitely a situation where staff need to have a word, in their own interest as a business.

Now is definitely not a good time for people to be training in a circuit style like you outline, using several different stations and so on. In practical terms doubtful I would trust anyone to do a decent fist of cleaning all that equipment.

In a commercial gym I always felt that was such a selfish way of training anyway.. A superset using two bits of whatever, fine, but a whole circuit set-up is ridiculous.

JayRoc

Black Sheep wrote: »

Definitely a situation where staff need to have a word, in their own interest as a business.

Now is definitely not a good time for people to be training in a circuit style like you outline, using several different stations and so on. In practical terms doubtful I would trust anyone to do a decent fist of cleaning all that equipment.

In a commercial gym I always felt that was such a selfish way of training anyway.. A superset using two bits of whatever, fine, but a whole circuit set-up is ridiculous.

Agreed. That sort of thing is bang out of order.

Probably a side-effect of the policy nowadays of having very few/no trainers or staff on the gym floor in commercial gyms

Alf Veedersane

Black Sheep wrote: »

In a commercial gym I always felt that was such a selfish way of training anyway.. A superset using two bits of whatever, fine, but a whole circuit set-up is ridiculous.

Yeah, fúck that noise. Superset is fine. Fúck right off with circuits though...break it up into supersets if needs be.

JayRoc

caviardreams wrote: »

There's a guy in my FF who was an equipment hog at the best of times but last week whilst I was using the leg curl machine he was doing a circuit of:

Leg press (marked by a large sweaty towel)
Trap bar deads - marked with plates left on
Bench with a phone and small towel - not actually sure what he was using this for - just resting his stuff maybe :rolleyes:
Hack Squat machine - marked with a 2L water bottle

Moving between them all with rests in between each exercise too.
He comes over to me when I'm on my 2nd last set and asks if I am nearly finished on the leg curl. I took an extra minute rest for the last set deliberately whilst he kept looking over.

Then after I clean it and leave, he goes over to it and pops two plates on to mark it and doesn't even use it yet.

Unreal.

Does a few more sets of various bits (including one on the leg curl), and then NOT A SINGLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT CLEANED OR A SINGLE PLATE REMOVED _ just strolls into the changing rooms with all his bits and bobs in tow.

I was in disbelief tbh.

That is almost pathological levels of dickheadedness tbh.

I would say if a person doesn't feel comfortable directly confronting someone like that, the passive-aggressive option of just using the piece of equipment you want (and discarding the stuff they left on it) should absolutely be employed here.

Alf Veedersane

JayRoc wrote: »

That is almost pathological levels of dickheadedness tbh.

I would say if a person doesn't feel comfortable directly confronting someone like that, the passive-aggressive option of just using the piece of equipment you want (and discarding the stuff they left on it) should absolutely be employed here.

Yep. They can't cordon off 4 pieces of equipment for themselves. That's just nonsense.

Move their stuff and possibly drown it in sanitiser...

nullzero

caviardreams wrote: »

There's a guy in my FF who was an equipment hog at the best of times but last week whilst I was using the leg curl machine he was doing a circuit of:

Leg press (marked by a large sweaty towel)
Trap bar deads - marked with plates left on
Bench with a phone and small towel - not actually sure what he was using this for - just resting his stuff maybe :rolleyes:
Hack Squat machine - marked with a 2L water bottle

Moving between them all with rests in between each exercise too.
He comes over to me when I'm on my 2nd last set and asks if I am nearly finished on the leg curl. I took an extra minute rest for the last set deliberately whilst he kept looking over.

Then after I clean it and leave, he goes over to it and pops two plates on to mark it and doesn't even use it yet.

Unreal.

Does a few more sets of various bits (including one on the leg curl), and then NOT A SINGLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT CLEANED OR A SINGLE PLATE REMOVED _ just strolls into the changing rooms with all his bits and bobs in tow.

I was in disbelief tbh.

Used to have a similar type of clown in my gym. Using multiple things at once, but mostly looking at his phone instead of exercising. One morning he walked away from a piece of equipment I wanted to use (and hadn't had a sniff of because of him the previous couple of days) so I started using it. He approached me after a few minutes and said he was using it and that he was super setting (a very relaxed form of super setting that took place mostly on his phone).
I told him I'd be a few minutes, he expressed his displeasure to which I told him it was too bad. Had him make a point of being a passive aggressive idiot a few times after that, haven't seen the guy in a long time thankfully.

is_that_so

Black Sheep wrote: »

Definitely a situation where staff need to have a word, in their own interest as a business.

Now is definitely not a good time for people to be training in a circuit style like you outline, using several different stations and so on. In practical terms doubtful I would trust anyone to do a decent fist of cleaning all that equipment.

In a commercial gym I always felt that was such a selfish way of training anyway.. A superset using two bits of whatever, fine, but a whole circuit set-up is ridiculous.

Saw this kind of behaviour well in advance of COVID, with a towel draped over a leg press. Guy had four pieces blocked and spent more time looking at his phone. One of the much older guys waited for 5m for the unoccupied leg press before storming out. I mentioned it to a member of staff who just said you just had to confront people.

caviardreams

If I had wanted to use any of the equipment I would have had no qualms tbh (apart from a thorough cleaning!). If he came up to me I would have just said "oh sorry, I thought you were using the X over there - I've only got 3 sets left" or whatever.

Except maybe having to lift the sweaty towel off the leg press :eek: :eek:

2nd Row Donkey

Mr. CooL ICE wrote:

Recently, I was faffing about on a leg extension while waiting for a rack to free up. When one did, I shot over and got it and started warming up, but remembered I never wiped down the leg extension before I left. Ran over just as someone was setting up saying "sorrysorrysorrysorry" with some paper and spray in hand, but yer man said it was grand because he was cleaning it himself anyway.

Something like this happened me, I was on a stationary bike and 60 second into it when the bike chain or gears or something started playing up, I was trying to maintain a certain HR at the time so I jumped off it onto another bike beside it and forgot to clean the original bike. I could actually feel someone eyeballing me and couldn't figure out why, and then it dawned on me about the first bike.

Cill94

All of the above just further confirms that home gym is king.

calfmuscle

caviardreams wrote: »

There's a guy in my FF who was an equipment hog at the best of times but last week whilst I was using the leg curl machine he was doing a circuit of:

Leg press (marked by a large sweaty towel)
Trap bar deads - marked with plates left on
Bench with a phone and small towel - not actually sure what he was using this for - just resting his stuff maybe :rolleyes:
Hack Squat machine - marked with a 2L water bottle

Moving between them all with rests in between each exercise too.
He comes over to me when I'm on my 2nd last set and asks if I am nearly finished on the leg curl. I took an extra minute rest for the last set deliberately whilst he kept looking over.

Then after I clean it and leave, he goes over to it and pops two plates on to mark it and doesn't even use it yet.

Unreal.

Does a few more sets of various bits (including one on the leg curl), and then NOT A SINGLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT CLEANED OR A SINGLE PLATE REMOVED _ just strolls into the changing rooms with all his bits and bobs in tow.

I was in disbelief tbh.

Imagine being married to that........

givyjoe

Honestly lads, having caniptions over people not wiping down equipment is futile. If you catch it in the gym, its infinitely more likely to be from particles in the air, especially considering no masks are being worn.

Alf Veedersane

givyjoe wrote: »

Honestly lads, having caniptions over people not wiping down equipment is futile. If you catch it in the gym, its infinitely more likely to be from particles in the air, especially considering no masks are being worn.

To be fair, it's the lack of consideration from the person not wiping the equipment down. And there could easily be particles on the equipment from them as well. Particles don't all remain airborne.

givyjoe

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

To be fair, it's the lack of consideration from the person not wiping the equipment down. And there could easily be particles on the equipment from them as well. Particles don't all remain airborne.

As I said, futile, everyone who comes into gym in LV FF anyway, is asked to sanitise their hands. If that person is infectious, they are spewing exponentially more particles into the air than what will be left on un wiped equipment. So having a fit over the previous person not wiping down their equipment, is again, futile if they actually do have the virus, seen as you're breathing the same air. Complain about people not following the rules sure, but don't kid yourself that wiping the equipment is protecting you when you are breathing in the same air. You only need to look at the early news reports of how the virus spread (without shared contact) on cruise ships and in locked down apartments.

Everything helps, but in the context of a gym, it's pissing into the wind considering the nature of the environment.

Alf Veedersane

givyjoe wrote: »

As I said, futile, everyone who comes into gym in LV FF anyway, is asked to sanitise their hands. If that person is infectious, they are spewing exponentially more particles into the air than what will be left on un wiped equipment. So having a fit over the previous person not wiping down their equipment, is again, futile if they actually do have the virus, seen as you're breathing the same air. Complain about people not following the rules sure, but don't kid yourself that wiping the equipment is protecting you when you are breathing in the same air. You only need to look at the early news reports of how the virus spread (without shared contact) on cruise ships and in locked down apartments.

Everything helps, but in the context of a gym, it's pissing into the wind considering the nature of the environment.

I know. But, like you said, every bit helps. Cleaning down might make a difference to someone. So wipe down after.

givyjoe

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I know. But, like you said, every bit helps. Cleaning down might make a difference to someone. So wipe down after.

Not disagreeing, im saying having caniptions over folks not doing it and confronting them/getting close enough to breathe their infected air (as one poster noted) is utterly pointless and counter productive.

JayRoc

givyjoe wrote: »

Not disagreeing, im saying having caniptions over folks not doing it and confronting them/getting close enough to breathe their infected air (as one poster noted) is utterly pointless and counter productive.

The point (for me anyway) is that it will typically be the same type of person who doesn't bother cleaning what they've touched and doesn't bother putting back equipment they've used.

At its core, it's all just bad ****ing manners and should be called out

Alf Veedersane

givyjoe wrote: »

Not disagreeing, im saying having caniptions over folks not doing it and confronting them/getting close enough to breathe their infected air (as one poster noted) is utterly pointless and counter productive.

Fair enough. I'm largely viewing it through my own prism. I don't move around so largely everything done in the allotted time is in the one place (rack) or maybe 1 of 4 sessions sees me move to dumbbell area. If I'm deadlifting facing the wall, as is usually the case, I'm not spreading much around me. It's mostly down and in front of me. Between sets I'm just looking at the wall listening to whatever or if there is a mirror, I watch my soul exit. So I'm a lot more conscious of cleaning down the equipment, the bar and plates and even the bar across the back of the rack.

[Deleted User]

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Fair enough. I'm largely viewing it through my own prism. I don't move around so largely everything done in the allotted time is in the one place (rack) ..............

Do you hog a rack for the full session ?

Alf Veedersane

Augeo wrote: »

Do you hog a rack for the full session ?

No, I don't 'hog' a rack for the full session. I do often use one though. Of the 10 racks, there are always at least 4/5 free so I'm not preventing anyone using a rack so no issue.

[Deleted User]

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

No, I don't 'hog' a rack for the full session. I do often use one though. Of the 10 racks, there are always at least 4/5 free so I'm not preventing anyone using a rack so no issue.

Grand, you made it sound like you were hogging a rack for the allotted time......

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

........ everything done in the allotted time is in the one place (rack)............

Alf Veedersane

Augeo wrote: »

Grand, you made it sound like you were hogging a rack for the allotted time......

Do I sometimes use a rack for the full session? Yeah.

There are always 4/5 racks free. What's the problem?

[Deleted User]

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Do I sometimes use a rack for the full session? Yeah.

There are always 4/5 racks free. What's the problem?

There's no problem, I queried did you hog a rack for the full session. In the flyefits I visit there are folk waiting to use the racks so I'd consider someone hogging a rack for the full session quite ignorant tbh. I've never seen 4/5 racks free once all the folk are in the door.

Alf Veedersane

Augeo wrote: »

There's no problem, I queried did you hog a rack for the full session. In the flyefits I visit there are folk waiting to use the racks so I'd consider someone hogging a rack for the full session quite ignorant tbh.

If people are waiting for one, yes it can be.

I did wonder if that would be an issue but it's not. Maybe it's cos it's a late session but I've been surprised at how many are typically free. I've always offered to people to work in, per Covid, but obviously not an option now.

Cill94

givyjoe wrote: »

Honestly lads, having caniptions over people not wiping down equipment is futile. If you catch it in the gym, its infinitely more likely to be from particles in the air, especially considering no masks are being worn.

This is a good point. This virus is highly infectious (likely that most of us have already had it but that's another topic), and whether someone else chooses to wipe something down is out of your control. Commercial gyms are always going to have people who don't put their stuff back or wipe it down. Getting pissed off about it is useless. If it's a major issue for you then complain to mgmt, or train somewhere else.

Alf Veedersane

Ah c'mon. It's natural for people to vent about shítty gym etiquette at the best of times. In the context of a pandemic, that shítty gym etiquette is magnified.

You should be wiping stuff down after you use it regardless of covid.

We all get pîssed off about different things during a normal day and usually it's pointless to be pîssed off about it so this is no different.

JayRoc

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Ah c'mon. It's natural for people to vent about shítty gym etiquette at the best of times. In the context of a pandemic, that shítty gym etiquette is magnified.

You should be wiping stuff down after you use it regardless of covid.

We all get pîssed off about different things during a normal day and usually it's pointless to be pîssed off about it so this is no different.

If having a light hearted vent on the internet about other people's irritating behaviour is wrong....I don't wanna be right.

Cill94

Yeah I get the annoyance like. I just think setting the bar low for what you expect from average gym goers leads to less frustration. ðŸ˜

givyjoe

JayRoc wrote: »

If having a light hearted vent on the internet about other people's irritating behaviour is wrong....I don't wanna be right.

Did you miss the post from the chap saying he was confronting people who aren't wiping down stuff? Not even a hint of realising that getting in someones face (who's potentially infectious) is epicly stupid and even more risky than using the non wiped down equipment. Completely missing the point, wiping equipment is just box ticking and is almost completely futile in a gym environment. By all means moan about something worthwhile, there's plenty in the gym to worry about. That really isn't it.

Alf Veedersane

givyjoe wrote: »

Did you miss the post from the chap saying he was confronting people who aren't wiping down stuff? Not even a hint of realising that getting in someones face (who's potentially infectious) is epicly stupid and even more risky than using the non wiped down equipment. Completely missing the point, wiping equipment is just box ticking and is almost completely futile in a gym environment. By all means moan about something worthwhile, there's plenty in the gym to worry about. That really isn't it.

Respiratory droplets don't hang in the air so it's not correct to say that wiping down equipment is futile or at least there is nothing to support that.

But not wiping down equipment after you've been sweating away on it has always been a bugbear of people and now it's in sharper focus.

But anyway, most people are just venting without letting it have massive impact on their day let alone get involved into confrontations.