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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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gmisk

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i'm not sure why anybody would be crying on the 3rd given the result wont be known until the 4th. trump supporters can't even get basic facts right.

It's an alternative fact?...

Billy Mays

It's funny watching Donnie's disciples trying to claim the moral high ground on stuff like this

salmocab

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Its the Sun I know but I can verify its true...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12417106/twitter-trolls-donald-trump-brothers-death-wrong-trump-died/

HEARTLESS Twitter users trolled Donald Trump just minutes after the death of his beloved younger brother saying the “wrong Trump” died.

Almost immediately after, tweets calling for the president’s death were posted using the hashtag #wrongtrump, which quickly became the number four trending topic on the website.

Some people are just absolute dirtbags.

Jo Biden showed complete class however, fair play to him:

"Mr. President, Jill and I are sad to learn of your younger brother Robert’s passing. I know the tremendous pain of losing a loved one — and I know how important family is in moments like these. I hope you know that our prayers are with you all."

I’d imagine after pretty much anyone well known dies some dicks on the internet do this kind of stuff.

2u2me

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

My point was that both are pure bollocks. Trump and Republicans will "support" Hong Kong protestors, and then say the same things about BLM protests that the CCP do about HK.

You would be surprised how many in the democrat party are silent on HK or in support of CCP practices.

Both are in favour of censorship and a party line that all most toe for fear of ostrasization.

The protests in HK weren't as aimless as the BLM ones (no clear agenda or goals) and not as destructive in their early phases(Looting in the US and violence started immediately)

HK called for international support, they called for their laws NOT to be changed so they could be disappeared by the CCP, so their representatives weren't hand selected first by the CCP. A very worth cause with a very clear goal in sight.

Could you tell me what could be done that would make the BLM protestors happy? That they would all go home and resume normal life happy and content?

[Deleted User]

You've claimed members of the Dems are in support of CCP policies, care to back that up?

Kidchameleon

salmocab wrote: »

I’d imagine after pretty much anyone well known dies some dicks on the internet do this kind of stuff.

Of course. The hypocracy though when the same people have been lecturing us for months about morals

Carfacemandog

Billy Mays wrote: »

It's funny watching Donnie's disciples trying to claim the moral high ground on stuff like this

Nobody loves a good auld virtue signal like a Trump supporter. In between bouts of trying to explain why those children that died in cages kind of had it coming, of course.

Timberrrrrrrr

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Of course. The hypocracy though when the same people have been lecturing us for months about morals

"Yes, people are dying, it is what it is"

Nearly 200,000 people have died

Mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters.....and Trump says "it is what it is".

So please tell me why his brother dying should get more sympathy than all of the others that died.

Yes, Trumps brother has died, he went and played golf while his brother was dying.

It is what it is.

timsey tiger

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Of course. The hypocracy though when the same people have been lecturing us for months about morals

Except of course that you have no idea if they are the same people of not. The fact that you say it anyway is why you need lectures on morals, which clearly are a waste of time.

salmocab

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Of course. The hypocracy though when the same people have been lecturing us for months about morals

Have they though? Who are these people, I think your just making generalisations.

[Deleted User]

Tell me how wrote: »

That's the type of dignity that is needed in the White House.

It's just common decency. Which Trump lacks.

extra gravy

salmocab wrote: »

Have they though? Who are these people, I think your just making generalisations.

He thinks posters here have been "salivating" over the death when in fact, the overwhelming response has been apathy.

Hego Damask

https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1294957462475255809?s=20

Can't wait for the debates , gonna be hilarious seeing this slavering senile old fool getting wound up by Trump.

Popcorn time!

alchemist33

So if a few people on twitter are meant to now be representative of Biden supporters and boardsies who don't like Trump, are the KKK and white supremacists who support Trump meant to be representative of Trump fans here? Seems only fair

coolbeans

Hego Damask wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1294957462475255809?s=20 ... gonna be hilarious seeing this slavering senile old fool...

Popcorn time!

"Person, woman, man, camera TV." Your guy was recently caught rotten saying he aced a basic cognitive health test when all he could recall was the above listed words, none of which featured in the test. Those in glass houses ...

Eric Cartman

Hego Damask wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1294957462475255809?s=20

Can't wait for the debates , gonna be hilarious seeing this slavering senile old fool getting wound up by Trump.

Popcorn time!

without discussing trump or republican conspiracies or anything else, that seems like serious degeneration on bidens part, not speculating on whats causing it , likely just age itself but christ he's a shell of what he was in 08

biko

https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/14/secretary-state-benson-6400-michigan-absentee-ballots-rejected-late-arrival/5584613002/

More than 6,400 of Michigan's 10,600 absentee ballots rejected Aug. 4 were turned away because they arrived after Election Day, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's office said Friday.

Another 2,225 ballots were discarded because there was no signature on the envelope; 1,111 were rejected because the voter moved; and 846 were not accepted because the voter was dead, according to data from Benson's office.

Eric Cartman

biko wrote: »

https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/14/secretary-state-benson-6400-michigan-absentee-ballots-rejected-late-arrival/5584613002/

Id say dead people voting is going to be a huge issue this November.

[Deleted User]

biko wrote: »

https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/14/secretary-state-benson-6400-michigan-absentee-ballots-rejected-late-arrival/5584613002/

There's no indication that they were fraudulent.. Plus they easily eliminated them so the system is pretty effective at handling such scenarios, is that the point you're making?

Those individuals listed as dead or moved include voters who died or moved out of the jurisdiction after submitting their absentee ballots, Benson's spokeswoman Tracy Wimmer said. The state gets monthly updates from the Social Security Administration regarding new Michigan deaths so officials can identify ballots filed by people who have since died.

Eric Cartman

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no indication that they were fraudulent.. Plus they easily eliminated them so the system is pretty effective at handling such scenarios, is that the point you're making?

Michigan absentee ballots have to be in 4 days before Election Day, to a maximum of 7 days before Election Day, on average 7500 people a month die in Michigan. an average of 250 a day , so lets say 1750 people die in that 7 day period between ballots opening and Election Day , 50% of the dead would have had to be absentee balloters and actually mailed the ballot for all of them all to be legit, its highly unlikely.

[Deleted User]

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Michigan absentee ballots have to be in 4 days before Election Day, to a maximum of 7 days before Election Day, on average 7500 people a month die in Michigan. an average of 250 a day , so lets say 1750 people die in that 7 day period between ballots opening and Election Day , 50% of the dead would have had to be absentee balloters and actually mailed the ballot for all of them all to be legit, its highly unlikely.

Well, let's look back at 2016... 1780 died between voting and election day. So it is in fact reasonable to assume that it is not fraud.

https://eu.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/08/14/michigan-sos-primary-ballots-invalid-absentee-voting-election/5584465002/

According to Benson's office, clerks received nearly 850 ballots from people who are dead. None of these ballots was actually counted, said Tracy Wimmer, a spokeswoman for the secretary of state.

Wimmer noted that in the November 2016 election, more than 1,780 people had absentee ballots invalidated because they died in between the day they tried to cast them and Election Day.

On top of that, the secretary of state for detroit has also said they encountered no fraud across 3 elections this year.

Chris_Heilong

The KKK were founded by Democrats, the racist people who fought to keep slaves were democrats, Happy the Republicans won the American Civil war but I dont think the Democrats have changed their ways and the comments about black people from Biden shows this, they pay lips service only in order to get the minority votes but this is all. Kamala Harris is really bad also, Some think she will help get the Black vote because of the colour of her skin but that is not going to work, people know better than to fall for such a simple lure and she is disliked almost as much as Clinton was, and a third of Black voters polled said they would not vote for the democrats due to Harris's new position.

Chris_Heilong

Lots of liberals have issue with her for the following reasons;

"Far from the “progressive prosecutor” Harris has been masquerading as since angling for a 2020 run, her record bears no resemblance to figures who might actually fit that description, like Larry Krasner or Keith Ellison. Even in a party that embraced Biden- and Clinton-style tough-on-crime policies, Harris stands out for her cruelty: she fought to keep innocent people in jail, blocked payouts to the wrongfully convicted, argued for keeping non-violent offenders in jail as a source of cheap labor, withheld evidence that could have freed numerous prisoners, tried to dismiss a suit to end solitary confinement in California, and denied gender reassignment surgery to trans inmates. A recent report detailed how Harris risked being held in contempt of court for resisting a court order to release non-violent prisoners, which one law professor compared to Southern resistance to 1950s desegregation orders."

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/08/joe-biden-kamala-harris-vice-president-neoliberalism

Carfacemandog

I see we have another one happy to ignore (or completely clueless about) the entire southern strategy and switching of roles by both parties over the last 60 years.

dwayneshintzy

Deleted User wrote: »

You've claimed members of the Dems are in support of CCP policies, care to back that up?

Doubtful he will, since it's nonsense. Support for HK has broad, bipartisan support in the States.

dwayneshintzy

Chris_Heilong, what are you basing your view that Black people won't go for Harris and the Democrats on? You've linked to a Jacobin article....they're people you go to often for news, are they? No polling of the Black community will back you up here. But even anecdotally, do you know many Black Americans?

Also just a question on your post about the KKK, Civil War, etc......is it the Democrats who have fought to keep statues up for Nathan Bedford Forrest or Confederate generals? Is it Democrats who fly the Confederate flag?

Outlaw Pete

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Did Leo advocate injecting bleach as a remedy?

No, and neither did Trump. He asked questions and advocated nothing but you'll continue to claim he did anyway won't you.

But sure given you have misquoted Trump in your sig (deliberately leaving out the word 'what's') so you could quote him out of context suggesting he meant something which he clearly did not, I shouldn't really be surprised that you're again suggesting that he said something which he did not.

Just for the record: when Trump said "Just remember, what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening" he was specifically referring to the false narratives which the mainstream liberal media were spewing on an almost daily basis, as they attempt (for political gain) to convince the public that things are a way in which they are not and so his comment was very much apt and indeed, (given what has transpired in the interim) quite prophetic and not remotely what you (and other liberals suggest) when you compare his comments to the 1984 quote which you all seem so fond of doing.

The way the liberal media covered George Floyd's death is a perfect example of what Trump was talking about, as of course have many other things since, including the MSM going so far as to suggest that Trump said George should be proud of job growth shortly after his death. You repeating their bleach injection lies is also going a long way to vindicating Trump's comments given he did nothing of the sort despite the media in unison all claiming he had.

If you're interested in comparisons between 1984 and what's happening in the world today though, then I suggest maybe you take closer look at how the mainstream media operate and how it eerily resembles what Orwell called the Ministry of Truth. One also only has to look at how the left are behaving today to see many similarities between them and the Thought Police / Thinkpol. As ever it would seem the left just like accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.

Tell me how

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

No, and neither did Trump. He asked questions and advocated nothing but you'll continue to claim he did anyway won't you.

But sure given you have misquoted Trump in your sig (deliberately leaving out the word 'what's') so you could quote him out of context suggesting he meant something which he clearly did not, I shouldn't really be surprised that you're again suggesting that he said something which he did not.

Just for the record: when Trump said "Just remember, what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening" he was specifically referring to the false narratives which the mainstream liberal media were spewing on an almost daily basis, as they attempt (for political gain) to convince the public that things are a way in which they are not and so his comment was very much apt and indeed, (given what has transpired in the interim) quite prophetic and not remotely what you (and other liberals suggest) when you compare his comments to the 1984 quote which you all seem so fond of doing.

The way the liberal media covered George Floyd's death is a perfect example of what Trump was talking about, as of course have many other things since, including the MSM going so far as to suggest that Trump said George should be proud of job growth shortly after his death. You repeating their bleach injection lies is also going a long way to vindicating Trump's comments given he did nothing of the sort despite the media in unison all claiming he had.

If you're interested in comparisons between 1984 and what's happening in the world today though, then I suggest maybe you take closer look at how the mainstream media operate and how it eerily resembles what Orwell called the Ministry of Truth. One also only has to look at how the left are behaving today to see many similarities between them and the Thought Police / Thinkpol. As ever it would seem the left just like accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.

He has demonstrably lied over 20,000 times. 20,000!

Your defense of him could have some merit if he wasn't so intent in speaking directly to people either via Twitter or at Press Conferences. There can be no ambiguity about what he has said, or that he said it.

Similar with your take on the GF incident and how it is a media publication from the Ministry of Truth. Again, we have all watched the videos (both bystanders and those worn by police) and have drawn our own conclusions.

As someone said, when discussing the repeated and frequent emergence of videos of such incidents in recent years, 'racially motivated and unaccepted behaviour by police forces hasn't just started. It's just now being recorded'.

Kidchameleon

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Lots of liberals have issue with her for the following reasons;

"Far from the “progressive prosecutor” Harris has been masquerading as since angling for a 2020 run, her record bears no resemblance to figures who might actually fit that description, like Larry Krasner or Keith Ellison. Even in a party that embraced Biden- and Clinton-style tough-on-crime policies, Harris stands out for her cruelty: she fought to keep innocent people in jail, blocked payouts to the wrongfully convicted, argued for keeping non-violent offenders in jail as a source of cheap labor, withheld evidence that could have freed numerous prisoners, tried to dismiss a suit to end solitary confinement in California, and denied gender reassignment surgery to trans inmates. A recent report detailed how Harris risked being held in contempt of court for resisting a court order to release non-violent prisoners, which one law professor compared to Southern resistance to 1950s desegregation orders."

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2020/08/joe-biden-kamala-harris-vice-president-neoliberalism

This one particularly stands out to me. Sickening.

Lets not forget, she also slept her way up the political ladder:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/kamala-harris-launched-political-career-with-120k-patronage-job-from-boyfriend-willie-brown

Kamala Harris’ first significant political role was an appointment by her powerful then-boyfriend Willie Brown, three decades her senior, to a California medical board...

Then 30, Harris was dating 60-year-old Willie Brown, at the time the Democratic speaker of the California State Assembly, when he placed her on the California Medical Assistance Commission...

Harris had no medical background, according to a copy of her resume that she submitted to Brown at the time...

Granlund said the appointment seemed brazen at the time because of the relationship between Harris and Brown. “Screwing the speaker has its rewards,” he said. “Stevie Wonder could have seen through that play.”

Brown recently acknowledged in an op-ed for the San Francisco Chronicle that he “may have influenced” Harris’s career...

dwayneshintzy

Slept her way up the ladder? Have you evidence of that past a fairly brief relationship with Willie Brown?

How much do you actually know about San Francisco politics, or even Willie Brown?