gmisk wrote: » you can't see that those 3 examples are racist....come on now. Who is kamlila?
sydthebeat wrote: » Kamlila???? Have some decency and spell the woman's name correctly at least
y0ssar1an22 wrote: » Kamala Harris are we reduced to that, spelling someones name incorrectly? i'm asking you, an example of racism. not a link to an article. surely if you take a position, you can defend it.
Carfacemandog wrote: » Trumps frequent claiming, and both his supporters and fox news etc continued insistence, that non white political opponents are not from America, not eligible to be president, an/or should go back to their own countries with absolutely nothing to support it. If you can't see that as racism, well...
Carfacemandog wrote: » You've already been given some but didn't reply.
Carfacemandog wrote: » Insisting people are not American based on nothing more than their skin colour is pout blank racist. If you want to continue to defend this, it implies you agree with his assessment.
y0ssar1an22 wrote: » specifically, where is the racism? is joe racist, cos kamlila inferred it? i dunno, what's the standard here?
y0ssar1an22 wrote: » again, can you spell out the racism? like specifically?
Overheal wrote: » Yeah the status of her parents makes no difference. She was born here, end of, with 2 and a quarter centuries of judicial interpretation to support it.
Tell me how wrote: » 'There's none so blind as those that will not see'. what is specific racism for you? A signed declaration by someone that their views conform to the textbook definition of racism? You seem to believe that unless someone uses a racial term, it isn't actually racism.
y0ssar1an22 wrote: » maybe i'm blind (i do wear glasses!). i'm open enough to be swayed though if someone can point me in the direction. why don't you (maybe not you specifically, i dunno) define that. trump is being labeled a racist. is the burden of proof not on the person who makes the accusation? surely you need to prove his guilt (i know its not a court but the principle remains)? is that not how this **** works?
alchemist33 wrote: » https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump There's a whole list of Donald's racial views here, with links and references, and the odd defence. They stack up. But to pick one, if you're defending a rally by white supremacists and the KKK, you shouldn't be surprised if someone calls you racist.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Everyone is entitled to express their view and everyone is entitled to change that view point as well. Snowden is a perfect example, Trump said he should be hanged for Treason, that view point has changed, Snowden might now be a Trump asset. A pardon isn't out of the realms of possibility. Trotting out what you previously said proves nothing only a view based on one snapshot in time. It's not today's thinking. I've had it myself posters in current posts throwing something you said 5yrs ago at you, times change, people change, it's not fair to say your opinions now are the same as they were then.
Tell me how wrote: » You look at what someone says, the words they use, the manner in which they say them and you consider these in the context of whether or not that person is consistent in how they treat all people in comparable situations. Trump doesn't. He hasn't told white people to go back to where they came from. He hasn't referred to countries which are largely occupied by white people as being sh*thole countries. He didn't apply a travel ban consistently given that his reason for introducing it was to curb terrorism and yet didn't include the country from which most of the terrorists which carried out the most deadly terrorism act on the US as part of this ban. He suggested there were good people on all sides of protests where one side was occupied by white supremacists. He suggested that protests were illegal and should be met with violence when what they were advocating for was for Black people to be treated fariely.
y0ssar1an22 wrote: » has he told non-whites to "go back to where they came from"?
has he referred to countries they are predominantly non-white as **** holes? but yet excluded the 2 biggest muslim populations in the world? being egypt and indonesia.
do you think there were were good people in the irish nationalist movement? pretty much, we can all decide that extremes of the left and right are abhorrent.
did he say that, that 'protests were illegal and should be met with violence' im pretty sure he said riots that were burning federal buildings was against the constitution.
y0ssar1an22 wrote: » surely you need to prove his guilt (i know its not a court but the principle remains)? is that not how this **** works?
namloc1980 wrote: » I like the way you inserted ... instead of quoting him further. Nice tactic.
Kidchameleon wrote: » Sorry to bring this up again but I think this illustrates my point better. The "..." came from your post (#1568), which I copied and pasted verbatim:
namloc1980 wrote: » So you're saying you didn't bother checking out the full source which I posted i.e. the videos on the tweets. Didn't bother looking into it further and just ran with what you saw that you thought supported your man. Yup, sounds about right for a Trump supporter. :pac:
Kidchameleon wrote: » Only got around to watching the presidents conference today. Impressive figures indeed. Despite the virus, Americans pockets are getting lined, this will be reflected on polling day for sure. Its also nice that the Trump administration is giving aid to us in Europe, this is also a vote winner.
Kidchameleon wrote: » Firstly, you accused me of doctoring president Trumps words, now everybody knows I did not. Secondly, if anyone wants to look back on my posts, they will see that I did indeed watch the videos (I made a post saying the video was cut too short and that it would be nice to see the full one). Thirdly, I went and found the article in question and shared it with everyone here so I did check the full source. In summary, I did not doctor President Trumps words, I watched the video and I read the full article in question. All of this can be seen previously in thread. You wont admit you were wrong on this but I've made my point and that's the last I'll say on the matter.
Kidchameleon wrote: » "As we continue to confront the China Virus we are rebuilding Americas economy like nobody thought possible." "Stock market up almost 300 points again today." "Our economy is performing significantly better than Europe...at the same time, Europe has experienced a higher excess mortality than the US...we are working with Europe on their difficulty's and we are going to help them all the way.""We have the strongest performing economy in the world, were up 9 trillion dollars in value since March." Only got around to watching the presidents conference today. Impressive figures indeed. Despite the virus, Americans pockets are getting lined, this will be reflected on polling day for sure. Its also nice that the Trump administration is giving aid to us in Europe, this is also a vote winner.
Cody montana wrote: » The country is trillions in debt, the stock market is getting pumped with billions via the fed, millions unemployed and millions face eviction. It’s a catastrophe.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » But the #IMPOTUS said it's all good so it must be true!
