GT89 wrote: » Nor are they allowed discriminate based on disability
odyssey06 wrote: » They dont just let anyone in with a dog though. So obviously they are allowed to apply rules.
GT89 wrote: » Not if it's a guide dog. They are allowed apply rules so long as they don't discriminate. They can't people with mecical exemptions to wearing a mask are not allowed in for the same reason they can't say travellers are not allowed in.
odyssey06 wrote: » How do you know its a guide dog... You are making a determination there.
GT89 wrote: » They are clearly marked. Are you suggesting that people exempt from wearing masks wear a badge or have a bell around their neck.
GT89 wrote: » Nor are they allowed discriminate based on ildisability
timetogo1 wrote: » Is that true though? If masks are to reduce risk (as the government and doctors say) and you can't wear one, you're a bigger risk to me than a mask wearer. So if I had a shop I wouldn't want you near me as I've severe asthma (but able to wear a mask to protect others).
bodhrandude wrote: » What I want to know is why masks are not being issued free by our government.
joeguevara wrote: » Sanitiser isn’t being issued for free. Condoms which reduce the spread of other infections aren’t free either. Why would anyone think that masks could be in any way free for the general public.
odyssey06 wrote: » Free mask distribution has happened in several other countries / cities / transport operators so its not unprecedented. Some countries set a maximum price in pharmacies.
bodhrandude wrote: » Yes it is, push button ones in shops, well i haven't seen a coin slot in one yet.
joeguevara wrote: » Has it happened in first world countries where mask availability is good or in developing countries? I think it would be a good idea but am wary of how long it is sustainable for and also, I think that even when the virus is controlled, mask usage should become more widespread on public transport etc to reduce other virus transmissions. Definitely a good idea having a rrp for the price as I have seen some crazy prices.
odyssey06 wrote: » Mexico, Turkey, Washington State (to those on welfare), train operator in Sweden... there may be more but they were first search hits. I thought we should have done something similar to Washington State eg free pack when medical card prescription dispensed. As a sort of kickstarter / promo campaign.
weldoninhio wrote: » I've a letter exempting me from 'masking up'. The Gardai have zero right to question me on my health, they can ask me to wear one, i'll show them my exemption letter. Although I haven't seen a garda on a bus yet, and i've been getting 4 a day since the whole thing started. I doubt they're gonna start swarming buses now.
ginoginelli wrote: » Other countries are issuing a exempt card for people who cant wear one. They can simply hang it around their neck when travelling. Hopefully bring it in here.
odyssey06 wrote: » Fair points re: the process side of things. For a lot of people, it's an inconvenience, but some gentle 'nudges' and social peer pressure will be enough for them to get on board. But there's a certain cohort who do need 'manners' put on them and unfortunately they don't respond to the above gentle measures and that's why law enforcement and a strong response from retailers is needed. That cohort are certain to be found in the ranks of the non-mask wearers. They are the kind of people who think rules don't apply to them, whether it's masks, litter laws, parking laws, driving laws, dog fouling laws, laws on where you can smoke etc And if that cohort are let away with it, you'll gradually see the other 'lot of people' come to the conclusion they shouldn't bother either.
weldoninhio wrote: » https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-news-face-masks-increase-risk-infection-doctor-jenny-harries-a9396811.html?fbclid=IwAR0xh1f5j5WuZub64B88E8rdPuBLP-ZOukHVwoyq5Q7llQVXXzEQjusHGIw Masks may actually increase risk of infection.
Sconsey wrote: » Masks may actually increase risk of infection if not used properly is what the article says. Why leave out that important detail from your comment?
In February Public Health England were not encouraging the public to wear them; Dr Jake Dunning, head of emerging infections and zoonoses [infectious disease spread between humans and animals] at PHE, told The Independent that there is “very little evidence of a widespread benefit” in members of the public wearing masks. Dr Dunning explained there are a number of reasons why they can be ineffective. “Face masks must be worn correctly, changed frequently, removed properly, disposed of safely and used in combination with good universal hygiene behaviour in order for them to be effective.”At the time, experts were also keen to stress the need for people on the frontline to be wearing supplies of personal protective equipment (PPE), rather than the community.But – since then – numerous studies have shown that wearing any type of face covering (not surgical grade, which should be left to medical staff) over the nose and mouth, can help in reducing spread of viral droplets when a person coughs or sneezes.
joeguevara wrote: » and reuses masks over and over and over
