Alrigghtythen wrote: » I doubt it, the local community centre was considered a luxury by the bom
khalessi wrote: » €50,000 a day
Blondini wrote: » Lol yourself. I have 22 hours and I teach 6th years i.e an exam class. Calling me a liar , eh , eh? Have a break. You need it.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » They were probably willing to pay for it
Alrigghtythen wrote: » How many class contact hours a week do you have? I believe some are looking in to hiring the convention centre. It'll be interesting to see if the secure.
khalessi wrote: » It is already being hired out by our wonderful TDs
Alrigghtythen wrote: » Made up by the tui? Lol
am_zarathustra wrote: » Again you are just showing you haven't a clue. This is for the new Junior Cycle reform and it is to account for the time spent in SLARS and subject meetings etc. There is more to it than that but you can look it up if your that interested. It is sweet f all to do with if you are teaching a class sitting a state exam.
PhilOssophy wrote: » No need for the patronising teacher attitude..... If the first point you make is insurance and renting, that would seem a very easy thing to overcome. If there is a will there is a way, hotels have meeting rooms etc which aren't being used at the moment? Its easy to point to problems if you want to. Maybe the remote option is provided by some teachers who are afraid to go back to the classroom? A proper online portal - fully agree, but not the hour or two which many provided from Feb this year....
Alrigghtythen wrote: » Yeshttps://www.tui.ie/benefits-and-services/new-to-teaching.1678.html#:~:text=A%20CID%20is%20a%20permanent,16%20hours%20in%20year%203. What are the maximum class contact hours for a teacher? A full-time teacher has a weekly maximum class contact time of 21 hours 20 minutes if he/she has any involvement in Junior Cycle. If he/she has no involvement in Junior Cycle, a maximum class contact time of 22 hours applies. As a result of a TUI Directive, any teacher appointed to an Assistant Principal 1 position and who has any involvement in Junior Cycle has a maximum class contact of 17 hours and 20 minutes. If he/she has no involvement in Junior Cycle, a maximum class contact time of 18 hours applies.
am_zarathustra wrote: » There are no teachers, substitute or otherwise, there will be less in October when a raft of them retire. This has been repeatedly pointed out. Retired teachers won't come back and PMEs are already subbing full time in urban areas. Again, no extra teachers. There are also not enough school halls to go around. I haven't a clue what this is about. Exam year teachers getting less time? Literally made up. A lot of teachers teach over the time too, I haven't taught to my allocated time in many years.
PhilOssophy wrote: » Point might have been made already but if everybody is wearing masks and hand sanitisers etc are properly installed, rooms ventilated etc I don't see how this can spread in the class room. If there is a confirmed case, the whole school gets tested. That could surely be done easily enough? I'm not buying the "its not safe" argument any more. If students don't want to go back there should be an online option, if teachers don't want to go back they can be substituted and there is a Covid payment available to them like everybody else.
PhilOssophy wrote: » Then use the school halls, use the local GAA club, halve the classes, get substitute/retired teachers to help out. It can be done!
Alrigghtythen wrote: » Is that a primary or a secondary school the teacher have class contact in from 9-5? A secondary school teacher has 22 teaching contact hours a week, less if they have exam years. 22/5 is 4 and a quarter hours contact time a day
alroley wrote: » No.
Smacruairi wrote: » Has already been discussed 50 pages back. You often have 6 schools all looking to use the same parish halls or gaa clubs. They are very reluctant to rent out to schools for insurance reasons, and the cost is huge. The govt won't pay for renting, it comes from school funding,which is already stretched tight. Retired teachers are in the high risk category, not a hope they are coming back. But also if you are splitting classes, who is paying them? The govt has said it will fund one extra teacher per school.in a post primary with 24 classes that is just hilarious levels of non funding. Also where do you send those 24 classes? What happens to the kids who voluntarily opt out. You said you wanted a remote option. Who provides it? The teacher who has already spent 9-5 in the class with the ones who showed up? There are always simple populist solutions thrown out. Teachers have thrown out our own nuanced solutions which have been totally ignored such as reduction in class sizes and contact time, developing online centralised platforms, diff curricula etc. The fact that the plan is "everyone back to normal" should indicate to you that the DES needdd to do more. Think this is the 5th time I've had to hand hold someone through critical thinking.
khalessi wrote: » some kids even had classes in football stadiums and graveyards.
PhilOssophy wrote: » They should be. Fully agree. Makes no sense. Another thought, what happened in the likes of Denmark where schools are back ages? I didn't hear anything about them all closing? Surely there are learnings from what they did?
PhilOssophy wrote: » Point might have been made already but if everybody is wearing masks and hand sanitisers etc are properly installed, rooms ventilated etc I don't see how this can spread in the class room.Agreed, if all of that was implemented that would be great, but a lot of classrooms are not ventilated properly some windows don't open properly due to H&S and that is before you mention prefabs. If there is a confirmed case, the whole school gets tested. That could surely be done easily enough? I'm not buying the "its not safe" argument any more.I read an article during the week in The Independent where it was called for that testing for schools and teachers should be prioritised when schools reopen to ensure quick turn and minimal time out and minimal disruption to teaching, but it has not been implemented yet. It would be a great idea. If students don't want to go back there should be an online option, if teachers don't want to go back they can be substituted and there is a Covid payment available to them like everybody else.
iamwhoiam wrote: » One of the problems now is the lack of strong leadership . In the beginning and up till very lately we sat down at 6 and watched the News . We hung on the R rate , the figures and the calm but authoritative voice of Tony We waited to hear what Leo and Simon had to say , we listen and we agreed . We did as told , we stayed in , we scrubbed our hand if we so much as walked around the block . We had trust in them , we were led by them and we stayed within our guidelines Now many are not listening , grown tired of the News and the R and the figures We are not shocked into being careful , we are not stunned with deaths and ICU figures Therin lies the problem , if the community was careful and spread contained the schools could open more safely Then if Covid is not in the community the schools will be far safer We have no real , strong , insistent leadership telling us that message and ensuring we get that message If we want the schools open the community has to be far more intolerant of any breaches of the guidelines .
