markodaly wrote: » It would be like asking an Arts student to design a rocket ship, they cannot because they have no experience or qualification in it. Teachers are the same, they are qualified to teach, that's it. Running something, other than a class? Nope.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » There may be localised closures and the measures taken by that individual school reviewed. Summer holidays next year could be staggered by province
Murple wrote: » Just to clarify, are you saying that if there is a Covid outbreak or cluster in a school, that the school will be somehow responsible? Shove 30 people into a room for 6 hours where they have little space to move but if there is a cluster of cases of a highly infectious disease (that we've been told for months to avoid transmission by maintaining 2m distance from everyone) then it must be down to neglectful practices by the school? I'm beginning to think Alrigghtythen that you work in the Department of Education.
average_runner wrote: » If that 30 people stay in that pod then it should be easy to isolate them
markodaly wrote: » So... I see the Dept. of Education have released their plans and everyone is happy.... ...and we have seen a barage of complaints. Look, I guess some of it is warranted, but again teachers seem most vocal (surprise, surprise) about all the 'what if' scenario's. I stand by my first post about this topic, that there is no leadership in education anymore and the Dept. of Eduation, the Unions are all so closed minded, and nuerted by decades of inertia and backwards thinking that they cannot even if they wanted to, 'get on with it'. It would be like asking an Arts student to design a rocket ship, they cannot because they have no experience or qualification in it. Teachers are the same, they are qualified to teach, that's it. Running something, other than a class? Nope.
Voltairey wrote: » My school have a policy that they're going with which aligns with the science from as long ago as March. Example: if you require a mask you need to produce a medical certificate stating why. Aside from being a violation of our right to privacy, this discourages people who want to protect vulnerable people from wearing them.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » I think all staff and all students from 3rd up should be wearing masks
Voltairey wrote: » My school have a policy that they're going with which aligns with the science from as long ago as March. Example: if you require a mask you need to produce a medical certificate stating why. Aside from being a violation of our right to privacy, this discourages people who want to protect vulnerable people from wearing them. I'm in (what I hope would be regarded as) the high-risk category (recent transplant patient) and feel my options to return safely are limited. I emailed a list of suggestions to my principal since the guidance came out and I spent all week last week attempting to set up my class to be safe, but the space just isn't there for the 27 students, even with pods. There is nowhere to walk in the room and it's a fire hazard. I have tried consulting with the unions to find out if there is any way of making it safer. I have a letter of resignation on standby and I'm lucky to be in a position to be able to support myself for the foreseeable with online work I have been able to make a profit off, but I'm sad to be leaving what I had intended to be my vocation.
Risteard81 wrote: » Why are you opposed to teachers and pupils breathing? Masks should be illegal in almost all settings.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Ohh dear god. They don't stop you breathing. Suppose your anti-vax as well.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Your employer really doesn't have a right to your medical information. Same applies if someone can't wear a mask in school due to medical reasons, they aren't obliged to give any further information on the actual medical reason. It's confidential health care data and your medical cert if anything at all should just read "Voltairey is required to wear a mask for medical reasons" or if you can't wear a mask "Voltairey cannot wear a mask for medical reasons". Your GP will tell you the same, it's none of the schools business at all and they should give you the cert with the above on it.
Murple wrote: » For both primary and secondary, it has been specified that only those in the very high risk category will be enticed to special measures.
Voltairey wrote: » I found that very disheartening and even moreso the fact that we have no information and are left with a knot of uncertainty and anxiety instead of given an assurance we will be safe. I am far from being alone in my situation. I am 33 years old so stand a better chance than the 10 60+ staff members in my school, several of whom I know have underlying conditions. I have not announced my resignation yet as I'm hoping for clarity early next week but I feel like I'll be the first domino. I asked my doctor and she said that if you don't disclose the medical reason for something, right or wrong, it throws up speculation and suspicion. Whatever the law says about privacy, there are going to be people questioning the legitimacy of your claim when you are vague with your health issue. Personally any of my colleagues I'm friendly with know that I have the transplant as I took time off for surgery and I'm sure word has spread, so I'm not bothered about my own situation. But there are other at-risk staff and students who are not being catered to with the current plan. We're too crowded and it's freezing there at the moment so I can't even imagine what winter will be like.
downthemiddle wrote: » There is a circular due on protocols for high risk staff.
downthemiddle wrote: » I’ll humour you. Please tell us why masks should be illegal.
Risteard81 wrote: » It's far more logical than making them mandatory.
Blondini wrote: » "Let’s stay the course by physically distancing, washing hands regularly, wearing a face covering where appropriate, avoiding crowds and doing all we can to protect each other." Words of the CMO today. So basically everything that's not going to happen in most schools. No thanks.
is_that_so wrote: » Very young primary aside, why do you imagine that people will suddenly alter their now embedded behaviour just because they step inside a school door?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » People are becoming lax. I was at a GAA club game today. Standing near a hand sanitiser dispenser. I counted just three people including myself who used it. I overheard one group making fun of people wearing masks. Once schools are back then people will begin to mentally switch off as 'it's all back to normal'.
