Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: » You should have told that to the WHO 3 months ago
joeguevara wrote: » This is the thing. I’m not saying that anyone who disagrees with me is a moron. I’m saying that people who disagree with fcucking medical experts are morons. And pseudo intellectuals who try and bolster an argument with a doctor that disagrees, is also a moron as guaranteed their so called expert is a fake or no clue what they are talking about. Yes it’s a new virus. Yes new stuff is being discovered daily. But anyone who doesn’t wear a mask when in enclosed space should be sectioned. I’m sick of mincing my words. There is no argument for not putting on a mask in an enclosed space where others are.
joeguevara wrote: » 3 months ago was then. Today is today. People who look at advice from the past as a reason not to adhere to current advice is crazy. If that’s the case we should use fcucking leeches and blood letting as a vaccine.
xhomelezz wrote: » Read the thread
Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: » Even medical experts don’t agree on face masks. Where was everyone with the face masks 3 months ago when they were actually needed but instead people who had never gotten off the couch suddenly needed to gout outside for their 5k walk, the same people who now think they’re so enlightened because they “understand the science”. There is no need for face masks now, there are zero deaths, nobody is being admitted to hospital but the whole country is tiptoeing around wearing face masks.
Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: » I’ve seen all that. Same old rehearsed argument by new found online medical experts who think they’re so much more intelligent than everyone else and anyone who disagrees is a conspiracy theorist, far right or Trump supporter. No need for masks now, there are 5 people in the whole country with the virus.
joeguevara wrote: » Ok, put it this way, no medical expert has ever disagreed that wearing one when a person is infected will decrease likelihood of transmission. On that alone there is no reason not to wear a mask. I’m talking about in enclosed spaces not walking down the street. Are you an expert? I’m going to predict know. Why do you think you have a right to tell people what is correct. Before you say I’m doing the same, I’m not. I’m following every expert bar none. About your 3 months ago argument, they treated measles with excorcism in the past. Should we only follow advice from the past even though we have more up to date advice. It boils down to, do you know more than every expert in the field?
Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: » Ok put it this way, you just said that no medical expert has ever disagreed with you! Do you realise how ridiculous you sound and just reinforce the type of stereo type of people who go around telling people to wear a masks. “Oh look at me I know more than everyone else I’m wearing a masks and growing at people not wearing one, they must be a trump supporter” Your talking about 3 months ago as if it was 10 years ago, very disingenuous. Here’s another one for your expertise. There are so few people in the country with the virus that if nobody, not one person, wore a mask it wouldn't impact the spread of the virus.
dwayneshintzy wrote: » Tickers, face masks are a preventative measure. Why would they only be necessary once things get bad again?
Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: » So do we go around wearing face masks for the rest of our lives because 3 people have Covid? Do you want to live in a society like that, constant angst over face masks and social policing that’s currently already going on? The numbers are so low that it’s not necessary. The cure is worse than the disease at this stage.
joeguevara wrote: » See I knew someone would jump on the medical expert angle. But as I said, what I posted is not my opinion. And that’s the great thing about it. It’s actually the opinion and advice of every expert worth relying upon. See if you disagree with that, you aren’t disagreeing with me, you are disagreeing with experts. And the kicker is, what is your defence for not wearing them. Literally what is the benefit of disregarding expert advice. None, none absolutely fcucking none. See, none of this is my opinion. But yours is. So back it up against experts.
Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: » Why not go a step further and lace up in a full PPE suit. I’m sure medical advice would back up that assertion that it reduces the risk or transmission? On that basis, why aren’t you wearing a full PPE suit if you base all your life decisions around expert advice? Do you take all medical advice that literally, I expect you exercise regularly, don’t drink alcohol, don’t smoke have a perfectly balanced diet, don’t engage in unprotected sex and wear sunscreen. If so, congratulations your blue peter badge is in the post and we’ll all go home and hang out heads in shame.
Spiderman0081 wrote: » Seatbelts save lives. Everyone knows this. “Morons” as their called apparently know this. But wearing a seatbelt gives a false sense of security unfortunately. Ignore the fact for a second that it is illegal to be in a moving vehicle without a seatbelt. Imagine you were about to set off on a journey in a car, as a passenger or a driver and for some reason your seatbelt was broken but you had to make this journey. Would you as a driver driver a little slower or if you were a passenger would you ask the driver to slow down a bit? The vast majority of people here I imagine would do so. It’s unfortunate that this same sense of false security effects most humans when wearing a mask. I am all for wearing masks if they are used properly in inclosed spaces. But the false sense of security of wearing a mask will cause countless people to go out in public with a slight cold or sniffle, thinking it’s ok to do so because they are wearing a mask. This will happen and is happening. And if these people are not using them properly, it’s an even bigger issue immediately. Mask wearing has been enforced in countless countries now but why in nearly all of these countries has the number of cases began increasing again after weeks if not months of face coverings? Is it because all people without masks are causing the issues or is a completely different approach needed, free of a false sense of security. I think face masks should be used, if they are used properly and only by those who believe themselves to be without any symptoms. Anyone who has the slightest symptom of a cold, should be self isolating. Period. Masks unfortunately prevent this from happening in many cases.
joeguevara wrote: » No, just wear a mask if going to enclosed places where others are. Wash your hands and engage in social distancing. Is anything about that wrong?
railer201 wrote: » The debate is over Tickers - the choice is now whether people heed the advice of the WHO, CDC, ECDC, NHS, HSE and many more health organisations and do their bit to help their fellow man (and thereby themselves) by wearing face coverings, or not. The daily average of new cases has risen to 44 according to the news this morning and is now a cause for concern according to RTE Radio 1 news this morning. As the rise will be exponential, things could spin out of control very quickly, which is why mask wearing was recommended on this thread more than three months ago. But of course on this thread we're all away with the fairies (pardon the pun).
Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: » But you’re the one taking the experts advice so literally. In that case why not suit up if all the experts agree?
Away With The Fairies wrote: » If you knowingly have a cold/flu symptoms and go out, you're a tool. The problem with this is being infectious before showing symptoms and that's if you do show symptoms and you're still infectious without showing symptoms. Not to mention the wide range of symptoms, not just cold and flu symptoms, hairdressers thinking they had allergies and continued on working. So masks are helpful with all this.
Away With The Fairies wrote: » Round and round in circles with all this mask talk.Virus is spread by respiratory droplets, a mask catches those droplets, preventing spread to others. I really don't understand why people don't want to protect others around them.
