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F1 2020 - British Grand Prix

Charlie-Bravo

And welcome to the new thread everyone, for the first of two rounds on British soil. The British Grand Prix. It might be a snooze fest at the front for Merc, but hoping the midfield battle gives us all a race to watch.

Weather is forecast as dry with only 10%-20% chance of rain.

Pirelli will bring the C1, C2, C3 compound tyres for use in the race; the following week is the 70th Anniversary Grand Prix, which will also be held at Silverstone, will see the C2, C3 and C4 selection used.

Channel 4
BRITISH GRAND PRIX
Friday 31 July
Practice 1 at 10.55am
Practice 2 at 2.55pm

Saturday 1 August
Practice 3 at 10.55am
Qualifying at 1pm, Q1 starts at 2pm

Sunday 2 August
Grand Prix coverage from 1pm, Lights out at 2.10pm.

SKY Times
Pirelli British Grand Prix - Practice 1
Sky Sports F1 HD (11:00)

Pirelli British Grand Prix - Practice 2
Sky Sports F1 HD (15:00)

SAT 1ST AUGUST
Pirelli British Grand Prix - Practice 3
Sky Sports F1 HD (11:00)

Pirelli British Grand Prix - Qualifying 1
Sky Sports F1 HD (14:00)

Pirelli British Grand Prix - Qualifying 2
Sky Sports F1 HD (14:22)

Pirelli British Grand Prix - Qualifying 3
Sky Sports F1 HD (14:45)

SUN 2ND AUGUST
Pirelli British Grand Prix - Pit Lane Live
Sky Sports F1 HD (13:10)

Pirelli British Grand Prix - Race
Sky Sports F1 HD (14:10)

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weekaizer

Bottas is not near capable of taking on hamilton. Period.

AMKC

namloc1980 wrote: »

Shame Bottas isn't able to compete with Hamilton like Rosberg did. Extremely boring up front.

Agreed.

CFlat

namloc1980 wrote: »

Shame Bottas isn't able to compete with Hamilton like Rosberg did. Extremely boring up front.

Ah I think on a good few occasions he's at least kept Lewis honest even today.

AMKC

weekaizer wrote: »

Bottas is not near capable of taking on hamilton. Period.

I wonder is Bottas afraid of Hamilton or maybe team management or maybe he just does have the killer instinct to go and get it no matter what. Lewis should stop whinging over nothing. I would say any of the other 19 drivers if they drove his car would not find a thing wrong with it.

Charlie-Bravo

weekaizer wrote: »

Bottas is not near capable of taking on hamilton. Period.

Some amount of full stops there. Did you mean ... ? :pac:

namloc1980

AMKC wrote: »

I wonder is Bottas afraid of Hamilton or maybe team management or maybe he just does have the killer instinct to go and get it no matter what. Lewis should stop whinging over nothing. I would say any of the other 19 drivers if they drove his car would not find a thing wrong with it.

Don't think he has the killer competitive instinct. Rosberg had it and was prepared to push it to the limit to win. I expect to see Bottas settling in behind Hamilton tomorrow and cruising to 2nd without really putting any pressure on Hamilton.

weekaizer

AMKC wrote: »

I wonder is Bottas afraid of Hamilton or maybe team management or maybe he just does have the killer instinct to go and get it no matter what. Lewis should stop whinging over nothing. I would say any of the other 19 drivers if they drove his car would not find a thing wrong with it.

Hamilton has to give the impression out to the world that he is constantly having to overcome adversity at some level... he doesn’t want people to think that these poles, wins and championships are coming easy for him because he thinks he will be discredited further down the line. He was vocal about the damage vettel was doing to the sport in the Red Bull days and now he realizes he is in the same boat in a dominant car but he will never publicly admit that. Bottas really has no advantages over Hamilton, he’s not quicker over a lap, not quicker over a race distance, not mentally as strong or aggressive, not as good in the wet and he’s not as intelligent it seems. Hamilton is in a one horse race every weekend.

Charlie-Bravo

Good to get a live race on C4 just to have a change of scenery away from Crofty. Ben Edwards is really good.

namloc1980

Seeing lap record tumble should be exciting but it just isn't. It's like Mercedes are in Formula 1 and everyone else are in Formula 1.5.

Fair play to Leclerc, he's dragging that Ferrari around the track. Vettel very poor. Not sure his heart/head is in it.

Inquitus

namloc1980 wrote: »

Fair play to Leclerc, he's dragging that Ferrari around the track. Vettel very poor. Not sure his heart/head is in it.

Poor Vettel didn't get much running in FP due to various gremlins, so hard to judge him this week imho.

Inquitus

namloc1980 wrote: »

Shame Bottas isn't able to compete with Hamilton like Rosberg did. Extremely boring up front.

Aye Bottas wouldn't have the balls to do what Rosberg did at Mirebeau in Monaco qualifying! That's the sort of Schumacher, Prost, Senna gamemanship that is sometimes required to clinch a Drivers Championship!

https://www.racefans.net/2014/05/24/rosberg-deliberately-go-mirabeau/

recyclebin

Albon looks like a broken man. Confidence look to be gone.

dublinman1990

recyclebin wrote: »

Albon looks like a broken man. Confidence look to be gone.

He was not in a good mood during his post race interview. I hope he bounces back tomorrow.

Jordan 199

Regarding Bottas - he should have been sacked at the end of the 2018 season. Hamilton had eleven wins, Bottas had zero. Shocking.

Cork Trucker

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Regarding Bottas - he should have been sacked at the end of the 2018 season. Hamilton had eleven wins, Bottas had zero. Shocking.

They still won both championships, that’s all Mercedes want, is a wingman who can bring home the points and not be a threat to Hamilton, the last thing they want is another Rosberg situation. Bottas is doing what they want and is being kept honest with 1 year rolling contracts so he doesn’t get too comfortable.

Inquitus

Cork Trucker wrote: »

They still won both championships, that’s all Mercedes want, is a wingman who can bring home the points and not be a threat to Hamilton, the last thing they want is another Rosberg situation. Bottas is doing what they want and is being kept honest with 1 year rolling contracts so he doesn’t get too comfortable.

Agreed, he is also a damned good driver, who on the grid is better than him, he's generally just a tenth or 2 off Hamilton in qually and often out qualifies his illustrious teammate. Max is better, LeClerc is better, maybe Vettel but perhaps not this season, who else?

Cool_CM

Haha, Daruvala's race engineer just delivered the radio comment of the season so far in the F2 race:

Daruvala - "Can I have an update on the race?"
Race Engineer - "Just fúcking drive fast!"

:pac:

namloc1980

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Regarding Bottas - he should have been sacked at the end of the 2018 season. Hamilton had eleven wins, Bottas had zero. Shocking.

That's ideal for Merc. He picked up 247 points in 2018 which a) ensured they won the WCC and b) he didn't challenge or cause Hamilton any problems. Perfect teammate.

[Deleted User]

namloc1980 wrote: »

That's ideal for Merc. He picked up 247 points in 2018 which a) ensured they won the WCC and b) he didn't challenge or cause Hamilton any problems. Perfect teammate.

Just had a look there, Bottas didn't beat Hamilton in a single race that year, genuinely didn't think he was that bad. Was checking because was going to do a little bit of maths. :pac:
EDIT: Bottas beat him in 3 races, my bad.
In 2018 Hamilton's team mate needed 8 points per race to keep the constructor's title with Merc. So 6th place at every race in the fastest car. Any of the lads on the grid or in F2 (and most in F3) would have been able to do that.

namloc1980

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just had a look there, Bottas didn't beat Hamilton in a single race that year, genuinely didn't think he was that bad. Was checking because was going to do a little bit of maths. :pac:
EDIT: Bottas beat him in 3 races, my bad.
In 2018 Hamilton's team mate needed 8 points per race to keep the constructor's title with Merc. So 6th place at every race in the fastest car. Any of the lads on the grid or in F2 (and most in F3) would have been able to do that.

Mercedes and Toto are obviously happy with him. He does the job they need him to do.

pjohnson

Russell will be 20th.

All other stewards investigations had no consequence but he gets a 5 place drop for not slowing down when Latifi went off.

namloc1980

Spare a thought for Lewis and his challenging day. He broke the lap record multiple times and finished a second faster than the next team!

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Frank Bullitt

namloc1980 wrote: »

Spare a thought for Lewis and his challenging day. He broke the lap record multiple times and finished a second faster than the next team!

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No amount of spin on that will work. The hardest challenge he has is getting out of bed I'd say.

Think I will skip this glorified test session tomorrow, Merc pretty much 1.5 clear of everyone, and will be for another year or so. If the F1 management had any sense they would be a bit more proactive about some immediate changes (like they have done before) before this sport eats itself.

We don't even have a remotely competitive sport right now, just Merc cashing in on its investment hand over fist.

Dont be at yourself

Forget about the mercs. F1.5 continues to captivate; a 'front row' of Max and Leclerc, with Norris and Stroll just behind. Should be some great racing.

Am I right that Norris is the only one of the top 6 starting on softs?

pjohnson

F2 is fùcking immense this year aswell if people dont wanna watch F1 watch F2 instead.

PsychoPete

Any hope of some serious rain tomorrow to make it some bit interesting

namloc1980

PsychoPete wrote: »

Any hope of some serious rain tomorrow to make it some bit interesting

Nothing in the forecast.

Man with broke phone

namloc1980 wrote: »

Spare a thought for Lewis and his challenging day. He broke the lap record multiple times and finished a second faster than the next team!

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Look at how many times he says me and I in one tweet. Shout out to my team for helping me do what I.

Does my head in he does.

namloc1980

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Look at how many times he says me and I in one tweet. Shout out to my team for helping me do what I.

Does my head in he does.

Lewis: I struggled to put together fast enough laps.

Also Lewis: breaks the lap record twice in Q3.

murphyebass

Gintonious wrote: »

No amount of spin on that will work. The hardest challenge he has is getting out of bed I'd say.

Think I will skip this glorified test session tomorrow, Merc pretty much 1.5 clear of everyone, and will be for another year or so. If the F1 management had any sense they would be a bit more proactive about some immediate changes (like they have done before) before this sport eats itself.

We don't even have a remotely competitive sport right now, just Merc cashing in on its investment hand over fist.

Nail squarely on head.