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1967 VW Variant.

kadman

I am starting this thread about the 67 Variant that I was lucky enough to gain ownership from Alpha Beta.

And so that he can continue with the best thread on boards, his own one:), I will be posting up any relevant info of the variant here from now on.

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zilog_jones

Would you consider an electronic ignition conversion, or do you want to keep it as original as possible?

kadman

Well now that i have it running, i will keep it stock

Success.:p:p:p:p

kadman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qNeGSJaQ9Q

:D:D:D

alfa beta

Wow - this is a fantastic thread - I can't believe you've already got that engine running - absolutely brilliant - I know the old man wudda been seriously impressed!!

Can't wait to see and hear it running. The car was parked up a couple of years before I was born, so it'll be a first for me!!!

Thanks for a great thread and great pics Kadman. I'm delighted the car found such a great new owner

:):)

davycha

Well done , delighted to hear its running

:).

kadman

Just waiting for a battery to charge.

Engine was running, with smoke everywhere from the oil put into the cylnders to
check for compression.

And of course a startup after 53 years non running is going to be hard on batteries.

I managed a startup vid which I will post later on, but its doubtful you will see me and John

through the smoke,:D

unkel

Result! Well done man, running already and you only had the car a few days.

Can't wait for that vid

kadman

Starter motor was not great at the start as you know, and the continuous cranking has now
made the solenoid go off the deep end.
So....
I am putting the starter in for a rebuild tomorrow morning

kadman

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kadman

And to bring you up to date on the position so far, and whats happening,
and what we found that possibly caused thsi car to be a non runner.

As you know there was spark at the plugs and points. So the next step was to
check the ignition timing to see where that was . As stated in earlier posts,
the timing was so far out it would never start.

So we attempted to reset the timing, but we could not revolve the distributor
far enough to accomodate this at all. Strange as the unit moved freely, but would not go
to where we needed it to go.
So we investigated further....

On early vw engines there were various distributors fitted, in short, some with a large vacuum canister
to change the advance/retard settings for the plug spark. Getting its vacuum signal from the carburretor.
There were basically 2 types of canister. Large and smaller body.

On closer inspection of the distributor body to see if there was any restriction reasons why we could
not reach the setting. We noticed that the vacuum body was clipping the distributor connection plate bolt
that holds the distributor to the engine case. Unless you knew about VW engines , this issue would be easliy
missed.And indeed it had been fitted with a large body unit, instead of a smaller one.

Solution was to remove the distributor, remove the large vacuum and replace it with a smaller one.
So distributor was taken off, but no replacement unit to hand.
Not wanting to go searching for one, we decided to take off the vacuum, and replace the distributor with out it.
And as we only wanted to fire the engine up, this would suffice.

Thats what we did, dissy on and cranked it.

Fired almost immediately, filled the place with smoke:D:D

Next plan is to fit the repaired starter, and work on getting a nicely running engine:)

And by the way, the "we" is myself and my brother John, who is also another VW nut, and between us we have 100 years joint experience of working on old volks. We both met alpha and assured him that we would get it running.

So we are over the first hurdle:P

Onwards and upwards.

kadman

I suspect that you now know we are both old dudes:cool::P

Gremlinertia

kadman wrote: »

I suspect that you now know we are both old dudes:cool::P

The older the fiddle

Absolutely loving this thread, thought Alfa's thread has been amazing so far and for this to come from it!. Can't wait for the video, well done to you and your brother

JabbaTheHut

Great thread. Looking forward to the video.

ba_barabus

Best thread on Boards in years :cool:

Any chance you'd setup a Youtube channel and post regular videos?

kadman

In this pic here you can see the distributor vacuum at its fullest
clockwise turn, but it needs to revolve further to allow the ignition timing
fire at top dead centre.
At this point it was about 40mm before TDC mark on the pulley,

Here you can see the pulley with the TDC marks clearly, well left of the centre
line block on the right of the pulley apperture. It should be vertically in line with this.

This is the large vacuum body that was restricing full clockwise rotation.

Here is another issue we found with the right hand 32 PDSIT carburetor,
it was missing the float clip to stop the brass end of the float lever rising up in the
carb body. Thats why the brass float arm was bent to cause it to jam to the
inlet valve of the carb, to stop it rising. This causes float level issues, which affect running

And finally this is a broken rotor arm end contact plate that was found
inside the distributor. So at some time the rotor arm was fitted incorrectly to the distributor.
Or the wrong rotor was fitted.

I am off now to find a firewire 4 pin camera cable / usb lead to fit my camera min dvd.
My last laptop had a firewire plug, my new one nor my pc has one, so at the moment I am snookered with the video,
until I get this sorted. If anyone knows where i can get one wuick. Shout.

Ryath

Great work so far

I'm stuck myself with an miniDV camera that I need to transfer video off. The best option seems to be to get an firewire PCI-E card for a desktop. I've no desktop at the minute though. I do have an old DVD hard drive recorder with a firewire port but I haven't used it in years, might give it a go first thought I'll be stuck with whatever format it use's.

kadman

Ryath wrote: »

Great work so far

I'm stuck myself with an miniDV camera that I need to transfer video off. The best option seems to be to get an firewire PCI-E card for a desktop. I've no desktop at the minute though. I do have an old DVD hard drive recorder with a firewire port but I haven't used it in years, might give it a go first thought I'll be stuck with whatever format it use's.

This would sort me out immediately if i can get my hands on one in ireland.

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Cable-3M-USB-2-0-A-Firewire-4-Pin-Ieee-1394-Adapter-Data-Photo-Video-PC-Mini-Dv-/263963461388

unkel

I might have a firewire card for a desktop somewhere. Probably the older PCI standard rather than the current PCI-E standard though. Will I try find it or is that no use to you?

I checked my Irish supplier and they don't have any fireware to USB cables. I don't recall ever having had one myself. Wouldn't be too optimistic they would be any good though.

Ryath

Pretty sure when I last checked the USB to firewire cables were device/manufacture specific. Sony used them for some camera's.

Gadgetman496

Ryath wrote: »

Pretty sure when I last checked the USB to firewire cables were device/manufacture specific. Sony used them for some camera's.

Correct, like this one which specifies in the detail that it will only work with a "SONY DCR-TRV75E DV & Cannot work for other 1394 or usb device. Please don't buy if your device not DCR-TRV75E"

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Firewire-iLink-Adapter-Cable-DCR-TRV75E/dp/B00VHUME42/ref=sr_1_7?_encoding=UTF8&c=ts&dchild=1&keywords=FireWire+Adapters&qid=1596058543&sr=8-7&ts_id=430445031

kadman

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Correct, like this one which specifies in the detail that it will only work with a "SONY DCR-TRV75E DV & Cannot work for other 1394 or usb device. Please don't buy if your device not DCR-TRV75E"

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Firewire-iLink-Adapter-Cable-DCR-TRV75E/dp/B00VHUME42/ref=sr_1_7?_encoding=UTF8&c=ts&dchild=1&keywords=FireWire+Adapters&qid=1596058543&sr=8-7&ts_id=430445031

Well it appears I know more about 53 year old cars, than I do about modern day computer peripherals then.:o

My old mini dvd cam is a samsung, so i need a workaround to get the vid off the tape??

Gadgetman496

kadman wrote: »

Well it appears I know more about 53 year old cars, than I do about modern day computer peripherals then.:o

My old mini dvd cam is a samsung, so i need a workaround to get the vid off the tape??

Have a look at these and see if your model it covered.

https://www.ebay.ie/b/Cables-and-Adapters-for-Samsung-Camera/155707/bn_176893

kadman

After numerous requests, and back by public demand, I give you, the one, the only, 53 year old Vw Variant in Ireland today:D:D:D:D

First attempt at a start up after 53 years, in all its glory, and smoke after all the oil put in to get a compression test. It runs, not for long, but it runs.

And it will run sweeter in the days ahead;)

Enjoy

kadman

Date stamp is from my old cam corder not set correctly.

Alpha can confirm the car, and the voices,:):)

kadman

The vid is not great quality as you know I could not connect the camcorder to my pc.

So I turned on the camcorder, and recorded it with my camera.

Best I can do at the moment I am afraid.

John Hutton

kadman wrote: »

The vid is not great quality as you know I could not connect the camcorder to my pc.

So I turned on the camcorder, and recorded it with my camera.

Best I can do at the moment I am afraid.

It's good, I was worried we'd see nothing till you got the cable, good save!

Might be easier to just record with the phone next time?

Great work.

Zaph

Spotted this thread on the front page and I had to have a look. My earliest memory of any of my father's cars was a Variant. It was green, with a yellow/beige stripe down each side. Not sure what year it was, but I was born in 1967, so it probably would have been from around then as he wouldn't have bought it new and I know he had a Beetle when I was born. I'll definitely be following this thread with interest, best of luck with the project.

kadman

John Hutton wrote: »

It's good, I was worried we'd see nothing till you got the cable, good save!

Might be easier to just record with the phone next time?

Great work.

Yes I think I will do that. I was going to leave it until I got the cable , but there is so much interest in this thread thanks to Alphas great work with his thread for the Cope Foundation and the motivation behind that.....I thought why wait, do it now:P

kadman

ba_barabus wrote: »

Best thread on Boards in years :cool:

Any chance you'd setup a Youtube channel and post regular videos?

I'll consider that ba, but making no promises:)

Igotadose

All bow down to Kadman and his brother. We're so not worthy.