Deleted User wrote: » Practical compromises have to be made.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » They're back since the 8 june and we're still thinking
Alrigghtythen wrote: » They're back since the 8 june and we're still thinking Rivm has some interesting reading on primary schools
Lillyfae wrote: » 8th of June full time for primary schools, was 50/50 since May and daycares were back full time since May aswell. And I've said it before, children of front line workers were never off. Add to that the secondary and vocational school exams all went ahead as planned.
Boggles wrote: » The Dutch plan for reopening which will be published shortly, but they are most certainly going the blended learning route with very strict social distancing measures.
Lillyfae wrote: » Plan for reopening?? They're already back!! Albeit the last 2 weeks the children have been enjoying their summer camps or helping to pack up for their caravanning trips.
Peter Flynt wrote: » Didn't the Department draw up plans for 24 students in 7m x 7m rooms (which is impossible unless you consider all students to be infinitesimal small particles of mass)? What happens if, as is often the case, the class exceeds 24? Who decides which 6 leave in a class of 30?
downthemiddle wrote: » The "practical compromise" that the DES has made is to sacrifice the learning of the most vulnerable in our school communities. They have employed 180 extra teachers at primary level to cover teachers on sick leave. This will provide cover for approximately 420 schools out of 3,305. The other schools are bound byhttps://www.education.ie/en/Circulars-and-Forms/Active-Circulars/cl0045_2020.pdf This states that if a school is unable to find substitute cover 'For teachers in mainstream classes, schools use other non-mainstream teachers to cover the absence.' Schools are being instructed to remove support from children with Special Educational Needs to cover classes. What a wonderful compromise.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » The room layouts from the department are farcical. Students stuffed into corners, up against windows and doors that will have to be open full time to allow some form of ventilation, children sitting with the end legs of tables between their legs and no way to sit properly at the table as they can't pull their chair in. Also every floor plan makes the assumption that the teacher seems to sit at their desk for the day. No room even left to teach from the top of the room around the IWB. Silly silly stuff.
caveat emptor wrote: » I heard on this that there will be a "pool" of substitute teachers which schools in each area / region can draw from when needed. This sounds absolutely fvcking crazy after what we learned from the Nursing home scandal and agency staff.? Do I have that wrong?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » 58 of them nationwide. Approx 3.5 teachers per panel.
Boggles wrote: » Sorry I am quoting the Minister for Education for Holland who made a statement on it yesterday evening. She doesn't seem to think so. Who is your source?
Lillyfae wrote: » When the children were sent home from schools in the Netherlands, the staff (teachers and otherwise) immediately started planning for them to return as soon as possible. Deep cleaning. Reconfiguring classrooms. Sourcng masks and gloves. Setting up handwashing stations at the entrance to buildings. Figuring out a one way system. Staff protocols, visitor protocols, all the rest. Nobody asked the government for guidance or advice specific to schools. They were following the national broadcasts like everyone else and adapting to the latest information.
lulublue22 wrote: » This really annoys me - those children who need support the most to do without. For all the talk re the effect on children’s education there doesn’t seem to be any consideration given to those vulnerable children. SET covering classes is a disgrace.
Boggles wrote: » Absolutely. Like I said after Wave 2 just before Wave 3. Every day is a learning day. #science.
seamus wrote: » It really seems like our principals have been doing nothing to prepare. Yes, the guidelines are coming way too late, but they also don't contain anything unexpected. You can go back on this thread and see that I predicted basically all of the measures more than a month ago. And I'm not especially clever, half of the country knew what would be required, so there's no good reason why schools couldn't prepare for the return without the guidelines. At this stage they should only needs to place final orders for equipment, arrange building work and schedule staff training. Planning one-way systems, class layouts, ingress/egress protocols, etc should have been done by the principals weeks ago; anyone with a shred of competence predicted what would be required before the school year had even ended.
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » I think the 6 are to be rotated and they are to watch a live steam of the class from a different room while supervised. However if there are 6 students coming out of say 10 classes (conservative estimate) they are just moving a new problem of 60 students to another part of the school, most likely to a computer room that already has a class in it. Cool plan.
seamus wrote: » It really seems like our principals have been doing nothing to prepare.
Peter Flynt wrote: » The real plan I'd say is this: Come up with bullsh*t to get teachers/students all back in. Once there they then know that the 'live stream' of the class is a non-starter, thus forcing principals to put pressure on teachers to take the full class.
Deleted User wrote: » # science like the WHO scientists who have stated this is spreading in a single wave with no evidence yet of a seasonal effect?
downthemiddle wrote: » Perhaps you can provide some evidence of this.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Well we have ZERO empty rooms and no spare staff. Plan is so full of holes that are left up to schools to try and figure out.
ginoginelli wrote: » There has been so little in the media critizing this disastrous plan. Rte and primetime in particular are giving the impression that the plan is a good one and largely endorsed.
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