Peter Flynt wrote: » When approaching supermarket checkouts I've been told, as one individual, to stand 2 m away from both the loading of the goods and for the paying of them. Not quite the same as being in a 7m x 7m room with 30 students, is it?
Alrigghtythen wrote: » You could have done your shopping online and reduced your risk further. Was there any windows in the supermarket within a 7m radius you could open? Is there any windows in your classroom?
Peter Flynt wrote: » The shops were open so I didn't The issue is not regarding the opening of schools Its the manner of their opening. If 2m social distancing applies in Tesco then it should apply in schools.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » You could have done your shopping online and reduced your risk further.
Boggles wrote: » People were asked to leave online shopping to the people who really needed it. Crazy safety measure. Shakes fist.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » Hiw close do you stand to your pupils?
Deeec wrote: » I think the plans issued yesterday were very poor and don't address most of the issues school face. I was fully prepared for a 2/3 day part time return for children and I think most parents would have been happy with this. This would have facilitated a more cautioned approach to reopening the schools Also Im surprised that school buses are allowed to run - all classes will be mixing on dirty poorly ventilated buses. It makes a complete joke of older children and social distancing. How are drivers going to supervise who kids sit beside - its beyond their remit. All children who travel by bus will be arriving to the school at the same time. Blended learning/ homeschooling - I am so so annoyed that no guidance was given on this. How hard would it have been to put a standard plan together on this that each school would have to follow should the school have to close. I think it is a given that schools will have to close at some time over the winter given the approach taken by the DOE - then we will be back to the unfair mess this was during lockdown. Also my children seem to have snotty noses for most of the winter ( as do most children lets face it) - its not even a cold - just snotty noses for no apparent reason. I reckon they are going to miss a lot of school due to this.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » Why wouldn't school buses be running? Public transport is running and children will be in the same "bus group" every day with the same people. Bigger mix of people on public transport. Are the buses dirty? Have you approached the company on this issue previously or asked them what steps they have taken to clean the buses? If the buses are dirty inspect the hygiene of it before you put your child on it. Or if it's a big concern could you organise a lift or let your child walk or cycle to school? But I agree the buses shouldn't be dirty. If they are not ventilated correctly, perhaps a window could be opened. How long is the journey to school? Will schools have to close or just classes being at home until test results return?
Peter Flynt wrote: » I'm a science teacher. My students approach me and 3 or 4 of them would stand right next to me as I check safety for an experiment at their table for example With demos there could be as many as 24 standing around me within 1-2m The problem with this debate is that too many people haven't a clue what goes on in schools and think t why know from their school days 20 or 30 years ago
Deeec wrote: » I think the plans issued yesterday were very poor and don't address most of the issues school face. I was fully prepared for a 2/3 day part time return for children and I think most parents would have been happy with this. This would have facilitated a more cautioned approach to reopening the schools Also Im surprised that school buses are allowed to run - all classes will be mixing on dirty poorly ventilated buses. It makes a complete joke of older children and social distancing.
Lillyfae wrote: » Sorry, they should be doing it now, not when the children are expecting to go back.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Apparently siblings will be encouraged to sit together, which should help a bit...
lulublue22 wrote: » How people don’t see an issue with school transport is beyond me. To liken it to public transport is crazy- our school buses are full to capacity. No space for SD at all. Some of our children travel up to an hour / hour and a half every morning and evening. Our busses are contracted by bus eireann to private individuals who have different jobs in between the school run.
byhookorbycrook wrote: » In primary you stand/sit quite close to the children, to do things like listen to them reading, see how they are getting on with a particular task and providing individual support as needed, doing little assessment tasks etc. The days of a teacher at the top of the class are gone for decades.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » What's the alternative?
glack wrote: » Seriously? Do you not remember being at school? At times they are practically sitting on top of me! And it is nothing new for a small child to attempt to sit on your knee particularly after they have been hurt. Think of any child in your close circle and what is their understanding of personal space. If it’s non existent do you think that trait disappears when at school!! Please take a step back is something I say regularly. Children would regularly be right next to their teacher - reading one on one, individual or small group work, hands on activities. Even just things like zipping their coat, putting on their gloves, cleaning their scrapped knee.
lulublue22 wrote: » Though to be honest I’ve no idea why pointing out issues with various aspects of the return to school means that you need to solve those issues to. Is that not the dep remit ???
lulublue22 wrote: » Increased capacity either via extra school buses or staggered arrivals / departure from schools. Busses to be kept for school runs only , daily deep cleaning between runs and after runs. Though to be honest I’ve no idea why pointing out issues with various aspects of the return to school means that you need to solve those issues to. Is that not the dep remit ??? ETA temp check and masks mandatory.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Maybe there is no satisfactory solution for some of them
Alrigghtythen wrote: » The preschool child care have more contact hours and are a lot more up close and personal with bodily fluids than either secondary or primary school teachers. I get that it may be scary for teachers. Yes it will be different and you will need to adapt. Haven't we all? They should look to other industries to show them how it's done. The trail blazers who kept the country going while keeping covid out. The school doors cant be kept shut forever
lulublue22 wrote: » Maybe not but as it stands school transport is an issue due to no SD and possible length of time on the bus. It certainly is not the same as travelling on public transport. It also makes a joke of pods if kids from all different levels are on school transport every day.
