SusanC10 wrote: » How fast is testing these days ? So, I have a cough and a temp. I keep the Kids home and try to get tested asap. If a get a (negative) result fairly fast, then it wouldn't be the full 14 days.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » It's not really a fair point. Who'll pay me to mind my kids if they get sick? Teachers aren't the first to go back to work
SusanC10 wrote: » 2 Questions (using examples):- If I develop a cough or a temp etc, do I have to keep my children at home until I can confirm that it is not Covid-19 ? If another child in my son's class tests positive and my son is part of the group told to self-isolate, do I need to also keep my daughter at home (different schools)? Thanks
HerrKuehn wrote: » It isn't practical for teachers to work from home, same as bus drivers, plumbers etc. Added to that, education is one of the most important services provided by the state, along with health.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Will employers be happy Parents be taking 2 weeks off all over the place to mind kids isolating? Will employers then stop employing parents and just employ single people?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Not sure about other teachers but I expected that this sort of stuff would have been included in the document. Public health really isn't at the heart of this at all, get em in and stack em high is the attitude.
SusanC10 wrote: » It's not really me that I am talking about the rather some other Parents who tend to dose their Kids with Calpol and send them in and then not answer their phone when the school calls.
combat14 wrote: » what we need in sept is intensive remote (blended) learning for all teachers even if this delays start of school by a week of two the reality is that if there is a second wave at any stage teachers need to be adequately trained to teach online perhaps for the rest of the academic year if needs be
wirelessdude01 wrote: » These are the sort of scenarios that can and will happen and they aren't looked at in the document. Money is being flung at it to appease the parents and public but no consideration has been given to what happens on the ground.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Example one for teachers. Teacher has suspected Covid. Has to go for testing. Test comes back positive so panel sub in for whatever length of time. A few days later a different teacher develops symptoms. Test comes back positive. No teachers available from Covid panel locally or in neighbouring countries. No standard subs available and two members of SET also call in sick that day. Class sent home is it? These are the sort of scenarios that can and will happen and they aren't looked at in the document. Money is being flung at it to appease the parents and public but no consideration has been given to what happens on the ground.
Lillyfae wrote: » Sorry, they should be doing it now, not when the children are expecting to go back.
hmmm wrote: » In those scenarios public health doctors would step in and make the decision. We can't predict or document every scenario, public health will work with schools if cases arise. The situation is dynamic, and our actions will need to adapt as the external environment (community transmission etc) changes.
Peter Flynt wrote: » The class would remain at school under supervision if a suitable teacher cannot be found. If it is a student I'm not entirely sure what the situation is as in secondary schools students have different class mates every 40 minutes for different subjects. Sending home the entire year doesn't seem like it's in the plan if a second level student is determined as having Covid. On teacher supply one important factor is this: A load of teachers approaching retirement are going to retire early and get out. Why risk your health for this? If, for example, there is one teacher in each second level school who does this (and there are already two that I know of in my school) then this would eat up the 1000 teachers supposedly being supplied. In other words . . . there will be no teachers available for substituting.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » And who will be doing the supervising is the whole point I'm making?
downthemiddle wrote: » Circular 45/2020 Sequence for covering all teacher absences: 1. Supply panel if the school is part of a supply panel cluster arrangement, 2. School’s own panel of regular substitutes, 3. National substitute service, 4. If no substitute is available from above options then a school may For teachers in mainstream classes, schools use other non-mainstream teachers to cover the absence. A substitute may be employed on a subsequent date when one is available. On that day, the mainstream classroom teacher will undertake non mainstream teaching and the substitute will teach the mainstream class. For non-mainstream teachers a substitute may be employed on a subsequent date when one is available. Special Needs Class teachers cannot be used in this way. 5. Administrative Principal if applicable 6. Local arrangements that facilitate the pupils to be supervised in a manner that does not involve them being split between existing classes in classrooms I would be particularly interested in an explanation of point 6.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Let's say none of them are applicable and it's a teaching principal. What happens then?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » So are public health going to come to the school on that morning and teach the class? Total rubbish. That scenario isn't too hard to imagine happening seeing as we have to stay at home if we have a sniffle.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Whos going to pay someone, if they need to take 2 weeks off work to mind their child (i.e bus driver/teacher etc) What happens if you have a multiple kids in diff schools, and in a 2 month period you are out for 2 weeks 3 times, one for each kid. Still get paid?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Seriously who put together point number 4? Why would the class teacher not teach their class when they are back in? For god's sake this is utter madness.
hmmm wrote: » If there are multiple teachers in a school testing positive, or all off sick and requiring testing, it's unlikely kids will be going to that school while Covid is circulating. That'll be obvious to a public health doctor. We're in a public health emergency. You're not going to get everything handed to you on a plate, it will require some element of figuring things out as we go along.
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » I agree, they've been off since March
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Should all this not have been sorted out, say maybe months ago and not 4 weeks before Schools are back?
