Micky 32 wrote: » So what do you think could be worse? A hot flush with a slight headache or a more dangerous illness that you can spread? Are you looking for reasons not to take it?
FutureTeashock wrote: » The Covid 19 mortality rate is 0.26%, so I'll take my chances with this deadly virus, thanks. Enjoy your reactogenic vaccine.
NaFirinne wrote: » Mandatory Vaccines is Mark of the Beast territory. Pure evil disguised as saving us all.
ACitizenErased wrote: » Anti-vaxx is about as evil as it gets :pac:
Nonoperational wrote: » Often born from mental illness / paranoid psychosis.
Micky 32 wrote: » Also it's not just about risking your health it's all the restrictions you'll have in your life because of the virus. You can't travel, you have to stay 2 metres apart etc etc
alwald wrote: » This thread was nice to get the latest news on a vaccine (mainly from 2 or 3 well informed posters), but lately all I see are comments about anti-vaxx, pro-vaxx and whatnot. It's pity as it was a nice daily read for many of us. No need for all this scaremongering, we don't know yet if this virus will be with us for the rest of our lives. Also, as posted earlier, some form of distance and measures will remain in place even with a vaccine. Experts are stating that it's possible that the first generation vaccines are not going to entirely prevent severe disease.
Micky 32 wrote: » It’s not scaremongering. The virus won’t be going anywhere. It’s important that most people take it to make sure of herd immunity. I guess you missed the poster who posted the Oxford vaccine can produce 3 times the immunity than the virus itself?
Marhay70 wrote: » Although I will have it myself when available, I wouldn't be in favour of mandatory vaccination, it's not as if the world hasn't had experience of vaccinations that have gone wrong and it's not as if the developers can cater for every eventuality in their tests, so really a full account of known pros and cons of having the vaccine should be provided as usual to the prospective recipient and an informed decision made. Imagine the catastrophe if the cure happened to be worse than the disease.
Hmmzis wrote: » And hot on Moderna's heels BioNTech/Pfizer are starting their phase 3 a well and they've chosen the full S protein version as the final candidate. Dosage is going to e 2x30ug spaced 21 days apart.https://biontechse.gcs-web.com/news-releases/news-release-details/pfizer-and-biontech-choose-lead-mrna-vaccine-candidate-against Also to note, there will be 120 sites across the world where they are going to test it. They'll be seeking approval by October if trials are successfull.
FishOnABike wrote: » If people's decisions just effected themselves it would be fine but their decisions effect society as a whole.
LiquidZeb wrote: » Not taking the vaccine because it gives you fever is like Lewis Hamilton not wearing a helmet because it's too tight. You getting a fever shows that it has an immune response.
Knex* wrote: » It's bizarre. The confidence that they can shrug off covid without any complications, but will struggle with the potential for a mild fever from a vaccine is mental
polesheep wrote: » The fact is most people who are wary of the vaccine will be wary as a result of the speed in which it will have been developed and delivered (If it arrives).
polesheep wrote: » That's quite an assumption on your part. The fact is most people who are wary of the vaccine will be wary as a result of the speed in which it will have been developed and delivered (If it arrives). I've had vaccines when travelling to Africa that gave me a fever and a sore arm. I wasn't bothered as I knew that they were proven vaccines and other than some transient discomfort there wasn't going to any issue. Not wanting to be first in line to take a rushed vaccine is a valid concern.
Polar101 wrote: » Yeah, and a lot of those people read on social media that vaccines are bad for you. And usually because they "know someone, who got narcolepsy".To me it makes more sense to trust a vaccine developed by medical scientists, which might help to end a pandemic, than be wary of it because someone on the internet said it could be risky.
LiquidZeb wrote: » It's not rushed they've just run all the safety procedures simultaneously. People are reading the word rushed in the news and running with the worst possible interpretation of it's use.
polesheep wrote: » That's the definition of rushing. There is a reason why the procedures are not normally done simultaneously. I believe we will get a vaccine of some sort soon, I'm fairly confident that it will be generally safe and I will take it, I just won't be first in line.
Assetbacked wrote: » What a messed up society that would be for a virus that isn't very harmful for the working and school going population. Good thing you're just a keyboard warrior and not a dictator of our country!
LiquidZeb wrote: » They're not normally done simultaneously because there's never been the sense of urgency to develop a vaccine before. What's happening is the innovation of the vaccine development process. Just because it took years in the past doesn't mean it has to anymore.
Marhay70 wrote: » Really, it would be nice to take the thread back to its original purpose which was information. There are some very informed and knowledgeable people contributing here and their contributions can be swallowed up by arguments for and against vaccination and compulsion etc. There are valid arguments to be made on both sides but I'm sure someone could start a separate thread for that.
hmmm wrote: » We originally had a thread just for news etc., but the mods combined it with this thread.@mods can we have a separate thread without the anti-vaccine stuff?
Gael23 wrote: » What about the person sitting next to you that has a high risk spouse or parent at home. You infect that person and they bring it home. This virus shows no mercy
Santy2015 wrote: » More good news. This bodes well for everyone next year. But hopefully all at risk groups here get some form of vaccine by year end. Would you say that we should all get the flu vaccine as we wait for the Covid one?
