Joe Kane wrote: » My ire? I was making a point. The 'Mé féin' attitude within the teacher fraternity is rife though.
drunkmonkey wrote: » The pods only work if everyone is in the pod, if a cleaner is working across 2 pods that's a problem, if teachers are meeting or sharing the same canteen at different times that's a problem, kids are mingling before and after school that's a problem. There's so many ways this can get out of control very quickly, the virus is now more prevelant outside the country than when we locked down, we've 0 control of who's coming into the country, this can only go one way once we reopen schools as demonstrated in Israel, Sweden etc. NZ plan is only show in town, I just hope it doesn't take a student or pupil to prove that point.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » How? Know the INTO have said they are generally happy but have concerns which they will raise in the coming weeks.
thenetherrealm wrote: » The INTO are and always have been walkovers. I am putting all my hope on the ASTI to scupper this "roadmap", this isn't worth the virtual paper it is typed on.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » We've been told that the staffroom will be locked. We have one cleaner at present. Having one cleaner per class bubble just isn't feasible.
Are you aware that cleaning is best achieved using a general purpose detergent and warm water, clean cloths, mops and the mechanical action of wiping and cleaning, following by rinsing and drying?
Boggles wrote: » TBF cleaning is comprehensively covered in the document. The mechanical action of wiping.
Boggles wrote: » TBF cleaning is comprehensively covered in the document. The mechanical action of wiping. :pac:
Boggles wrote: » Because I am trying to give you some advice? All transmit and no receive. As you were lad.
iamwhoiam wrote: » I genuinely and sincerely hope you are not a teacher . Or that you don’t speak to pupils and parents like you do on this thread
Boggles wrote: » There is no provision of funding for temporary accommodation like prefabs or anything like that, if anything prefabs should be closed, particularly the older ones. Norma thinks schools can utilize, their music rooms, libraries, snooker rooms, bowling rooms and cigar parlors to accommodate the extra teachers that don't exist. Actually where did Norma actually teach, Downton Abbey?
teachinggal123 wrote: » I posted last week that schools may take over AE centres for the foreseeable future and that AE tutors may be redeployed. AE = adult education
Boggles wrote: » You heard schools are taking over these centers or you think they should take over these centers?
Boggles wrote: » For 54th time I am not a teacher. Also. ]
joe40 wrote: » Firstly I am a teacher and understand the risks. However small group gatherings are fine but teenagers need the interaction that only a school can provide. We need to live with this virus it is not going away. This is a plan it will need to be tweaked and amended as it is implemented, but at this stage I think we need to get started. If I thought things would be better after Christmas then definitely extend the lockdown, but there is no indication things will be better in the medium term, years maybe.
KerryConnor wrote: » I may be overly optimistic but I thought the big news story last week was a safe vaccine producing antibodies in 3 different trials. Fauci has said maybe October or November it will be ready. Obviously it probably won't be rolled out in Ireland properly till 2021 but it's on the way no doubt.
Ectoplasm wrote: » Extra cleaning is fair. The extra subs don't actually mitigate risk in any way. They are just more people moving through schools. It is also wildly optimistic to think that we have that many available subs when schools have struggled to find them for the last few years. As for improving infrastructure...this is all to be done in the next 4 weeks. How much of that do you honestly believe will be long term structural improvements? I can see it being spent and I can see *some* of it being used for fixing things that should have been fixed. The reality is that it will most likely be used on temporary accommodations which, if experience is anything to go by, will become long term sub standard accommodation. How many things commissioned and built in 4 weeks do you know that stand the test of time? I think there is a massive naivete out there among the general public as to what schools are actually like day to day. This 'plan' is anything but a plan. They are throwing money at schools and asking them to figure it all out, while knowing that they are likely setting schools up for failure but ensuring that the blame will also be placed on those schools.
teachinggal123 wrote: » Even if this is true it’ll be 2022 at the earliest before the vaccine will be widely available.
Boggles wrote: » There is no guarantee that the vaccine will work. Phase 3 trials will let us know someway, but realistically we won't know until it is scaled up and given to billions. It could be well into 2022 before we can determine that.
drunkmonkey wrote: » It won't be a once off vaccine either, might need to be taken multiple times a year. It'll be a few years before we can determine it's effectiveness, long term health implications and how long the immunity lasts. We also need 80%+ take up for it to be effective. I'm not optimistic.
flynnlives wrote: » as usual the whinging teachers are out lookin for more money. They had 6 months now on full pay sitting on their arses. Time to stfu and get busy preparing for school term.
xhomelezz wrote: » Plus production, distribution etc.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Your going to need mandatory vaccines, possibly for health care workers first, 80% of them won't take it. Leo has said they should all be taking flu vaccine or they have no business in health care. If they turn to the teachers then and make the fastest developed vaccine in History mandatory what will the unions and teachers say. I know some will rush to get it, others will be more cautious and rightly so. We won't know the long term health effects for years to come.
