Hannibal36 wrote: » Asia has long been subjugated, and in reality most large Asian cities would be full of masks long before this virus ever came about,they didn't need a big shove to get in on the mask lark. But if population compliance,subjugation and poverty similar to what East Asian countries endure then need not worry we are right on track to be just like them.
odyssey06 wrote: » We don't know if your poor healthy man is carrying the disease. We don't know what people exposed to passive smoking will develop cancer as they age. A state is entitled to ban smoking in public where there is a risk to the health of others. Similarly a state is entitled to bring in rules on masks during a pandemic. This has nothing to do with classes and rich v poor. It's not just poor healthy young men and women being asked to wear masks, it's the middling and rich too. It's called the generational contract. Some day that poor healthy man will be an unhealthy old man. He may be richer then, he may be poorer. When that time comes, should the future generation of healthy young people ignore and abandon your poor healthy man? They don't know him or care about him. It's not the poor man's taxes paying for the police, the roads, the hospitals, the schools, social security. Should the taxes from rich old people only get spent on nursing homes, pensions and geriatric care in hospitals? If you want a state where there is no social contract, no generational contract and each just looks after their own, well, there would be long term consequences to that for your poor healthy man too. And finally, in the short term, you are not just wearing the mask to protect older people. You are wearing the mask to protect the economy. You are wearing the mask to protect the health service from being overwhelmed and being able to treat you should you have an accident.
Hannibal36 wrote: » It's a class thing no matter what way it goes it will always come down to class,because a middle and upper middle class person naively believes the government is trying to actually save lives,but most people know better and so its always going to become a class thing.
Hannibal36 wrote: » Class has got to do with it because the disagreement on wearing and not wearing is dividing exactly down class lines here and elsewhere.
Hannibal36 wrote: » Asia has long been subjugated, and in reality most large Asian cities would be full of masks long before this virus ever came about,they didn't need a big shove to get in on the mask lark.
robinph wrote: » ... And how have those countries got on with controlling the spread of the virus?
Graham wrote: » I don't think disagreement is along class lines. I think it's more likely along education lines. On the one side you have those that understand how a virus spreads, understand exponential growth, understand the costs to the economy of another lockdown. On the other side are those that either ignore facts or don't understand them.
Hannibal36 wrote: » Point proved,education lines,the college educated boardsies looking for links for every sentence one writes to prove its authenticity,have decided now it's the great uneducated,unwashed masses that don't understand basic science like they do,well you guys went to college to learn how to follow instructions rigidly. You guys give yourselves away so easy all riled up with a few of my posts,the truth hurts,you guys are soft middle class,with very little critical thinking.
Hannibal36 wrote: » This is like Chinese whispers, I didn't say they discriminated but the reality is if you take a poll, middle and upper class are In support of them and lower classes are not. It's become very clearly drawn on class lines it's the same in the states, so my question is again I can phrase it different why should poor people wear masks that richer people are trying to force them to wear, share some of your money first before you ask poor people to be as stupid as you.
Hannibal36 wrote: » If any of you guys in here liking these donkeys posts,believing this nonsense,are not earning from this Covid money,bigger fool you,bigger fool you.
odyssey06 wrote: » You are the one getting riled up throwing out phrases like the uneducated and unwashed and soft middle class. As for authenticity, it's nothing to do with being college educated.
Jim_Hodge wrote: » Not for the first time, I have absolutely no idea what you mean by any of that post.
McGiver wrote: » We've reached the peak anti-mask. Every day something new and more bizarre.
McGiver wrote: » Seriously the idea that masks have been enforced by the bourgeois upper classes to enslave the working class proletariat is bizarre. What do bourgeois gain by that exactly? They were the masks themselves. I mean you can't make this up.... This is an utter nonsense from some sort of a hard left (or hard right), nationalist socialist or communist type of propaganda. Incredible that someone believes that in 2020. It has nothing to do in this thread IMHO. Conspiracy theory thread more suitable
Hannibal36 wrote: » Class has got to do with it because the disagreement on wearing and not wearing is dividing exactly down class lines here and elsewhere. As for your life it is not my fault life has skewed your priorities and made you believe yourself to be a victim,the movies tend to do that with single parents it was the drive to make them cool. Reality is two children are a blessing and you are lucky to have them,lots of people far far worse off than you believe me and you don't have to do it while putting up with an interfering abusive partner,you are blessed you just don't realise it,but suffering you are not.Working hard maybe,but you are living,spare a thought for the homeless who dreamt of having kids like you and a job.
Hannibal36 wrote: » The middle and upper middle are just the useful idiots,they are unaware as is a lot of posters in this thread. So explain to me,how come after 6 months into this deadly pandemic,while we shut down every business and forced everybody to stay home did Leo our leader say it was ok for BLM to protest because it was such an important social issue? Deadly pandemic anybody?Cop yourselves on lads you are might have some friends in your circle who buy it,but a lot of people are laughing at you people buying this deadly virus that has killed no more people than last year.
Wibbs wrote: » I never went to university. Do I win something?
pjohnson wrote: » The critical thinking championships as far as I can tell. You use a suspicious amount of punctuation however.
Deleted User wrote: » I said earlier in a deleted post it's like Moore's Law. The stupidity of the arguments seems to double every week.
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