khalessi wrote: » THey should also fill out a daily health questionaire before dropping children into school
meeeeh wrote: » Why would they close schools? Other countries managed perfectly well with just leaving class at home. Is there any reason why we should overreact and ignore what worked well in other countries?
downthemiddle wrote: » Thanks Donald.
Peter Flynt wrote: » No social distancing (the plan for 1m social distancing is boll***s - they know it can't be done) No mandatory masks/visors Suggesting 93 people in one room - A gym. No plan for what occurs when classes have to change every 40 minutes. No plan to close schools with suspected Covid cases - Bring them to a room instead. No plan to close schools with actual confirmed cases. Insufficient numbers of sub teachers for what will inevitably be large absences. Pupils told to wear MANDATORY masks on the bus to school . . but not required once there. Providing plans for classrooms of size 17-24 students - Where do I place the other 6 in my Leaving Cert Maths class? Need I go on?
tscul32 wrote: » What seemed to be missing (I only read primary one so far) is what happens if someone in a class- student or teacher- is diagnosed? Does the whole group stay out for 2 weeks?
gnf_ireland wrote: » Not being funny hear but are you planning to hide away in isolation until a vaccine is found and rolled out globally? What happens when the next SARS virus occurs? Life has to move on. All around me kids are mixing all the time. There have been summer camps in operation up and down the country - there has been no spike as a result of that. I am not suggesting we act like nothing is happening, but we cannot hide away for ever either ! BTW I hope all parents have to sign a declaration that they (or the kids) have not been outside the country for 14 days prior to school restarting, and it be a criminal offence with automatic expulsion from school if they are found to have made a false declaration !
isup wrote: » I really don't want to send my 6 year old in. As up to now we've been careful. Not having people in out house and having limited contact with people always showing social distancing. I see kids everywhere that don't observe anything like this and it's going to be a big shock mixing the kids from both sides. Especially if parents and grandparents are at risk . Just counting the days now.
khalessi wrote: » Should be a paid post at least but I suppose after giving the super Junior ministers their rise, they have nothing left.
tscul32 wrote: » What seemed to be missing (I only read primary one so far) is what happens if someone in a class- student or teacher- is diagnosed? Does the whole group stay out for 2 weeks? Also found it amusing about the LWR - school should look for volunteers, if more than one volunteer there should be a vote - nothing about what happens if there are no volunteers....
Smacruairi wrote: » I remember a back and forth with you 3 months ago, and we agreed we would plan as best as we could. Has your opinion changed slightly that the govt, more specifically the DES is absolutely brutal?
Sierra Oscar wrote: » The reaction from union officials has been cautious but generally positive. The next couple of days will tell I guess. Realistically though, what is the alternative for teachers? This is the only plan we have.
Benimar wrote: » Couldn’t agree more. We have spent 4 months keeping our 2 kids safe, and are now faced with the decision of sending them back into an unsafe environment. I’d gladly work around having them in half time in order to ensure they were in a safer environment.
sideswipe wrote: » Think you may be jumping the gun as far as ‘teachers getting on board’ is concerned if the comments of teachers here is anything to go by.
gnf_ireland wrote: » To be fair, I dont think half and half would be supported by any teacher who is also a parent either !! Just to be clear, these proposals do not allow any working parents to go back into an office full time. It is likely children will be out pretty frequently given the guidelines provided today. This is a calculated political decision - absolutely. Everything that the new government has said since coming to office clearly stated they wanted schools to open full time in September. They have demonised foreign holidays and sacrificed opening of pubs with this sole objective in mind. And of course, not forgetting the fact that Micheal is also a teacher The sad reality of this thread is it is now over 4 months old and we are no further along with having the schools reopened than we were after the Easter holidays. Yes, there is potentially some money being thrown at the problem, but there is no meaningful plan as to how schools will open and this is disappointing beyond belief. I am not sure which will be worse - the fiasco that was the 3rd term last year or the fiasco that will be the 1st term coming !
Sierra Oscar wrote: » I think what you suggest regarding a half and half split would be ideal in terms of creating the right environment for social distancing. However the hard reality is that it wouldn't be tolerated by working parents. It's a calculated political decision.
sideswipe wrote: » Can I ask what in particular is so bad about the plan? Or rather what you feel should happen? Not **** stirring here btw, genuinely interested to hear the views of those on the front line of this. Personally I can’t see an alternative to what is being suggested apart from keep schools closed until a vaccine is available.
Risteard81 wrote: » Fauci is a fraud.
Grandeeod wrote: » I'm only a concerned parent and already feel sick at the thoughts of it. A complete cop out and pass the buck to local schools scenario. I wouldn't even trust boards of management at this point as they can be influenced. Once again I'll say what was wrong with alternate weeks to reduce school capacity and keep the show on the road under review.
Icyseanfitz wrote: » Let staff use PPE, cut class numbers in half, so bring half the school in one week, the other half in the week after, make use of remote learning to cut down on contact hours, hand sanitizer stations in all classes, figure out how to safely do practical subjects, temperature checking in the morning at some point. There's lots they could have tried but they went with the easier option imo
Sierra Oscar wrote: » It's positive to see a full re-opening of schools in as 'normal' a manner as possible. Reading over the plan, it thankfully seems that some of the major disruption that was predicted will be avoided. Fair play to the teachers for getting on board with this plan, it can't be implemented without them. That deserves recognition.
khalessi wrote: » It is an eyesore of a dcoument alright between the mockery of social distancing, the incomplete list of symptoms, the lack of ppe for staff, 30 kids in a class with 40cm. It is embarrassing to think the Min of Ed is a teacher and doesnt even comtemplate how cold viruses (another version of coronavirus, one of the 7 types) travel around a room let alone vomitting bugs. I feel very let down but not surprised at the same time.
