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How will schools be able to go back in September?

shoppergal

Just wondering if anyone can give any insight into how schools could safely re-open in September?

Everyone I'm talking to is saying they won't be back until September but in my head I'm wondering how they'll re-open even in September? The virus will still be there with a vaccine still months away at that stage.

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Loafing Oaf

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

With a lot of our teenagers it will become 50% teaching, 50% telling them to put their masks back on

This is what I'm wondering, with so much focus on covid prevention measures, how much actual learning will be happening?

combat14

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

As much as I am 100% in the "if we are back to school we all have to wear masks" Camp, kids will find it impossible. Even adult friends I have working in other sectors hate them. In post primary I can't see students abiding by wearing masks at all times

try all day in a small computer room with 30 computers on all day

but if masks are expected on buses and mandatory for health and safety in shops ..

they will have to be mandatory in school classrooms too
no if or buts!

wirelessdude01

khalessi wrote: »

Yup I am expecting the teachers are stopping reopening argument pretty soon

I assume that the articles are already typed and ready to be uploaded.

Ciara Kelly will already have her 'contributers' ready.

Icyseanfitz

lulublue22 wrote: »

My teenager is asthmatic and struggles with masks yet she still wears one when required. I admit a mask all day in school will be a huge challenge ( for her) But we all have to play our part unless medically unable to do so. Teenagers without health conditions should be well able to get on with it.

With a lot of our teenagers it will become 50% teaching, 50% telling them to put their masks back on

khalessi

lulublue22 wrote: »

My teenager is asthmatic and struggles with masks yet she still wears one when required. I admit a mask all day in school will be a huge challenge ( for her) But we all have to play our part unless medically unable to do so. Teenagers without health conditions should be well able to get on with it.

Niece is the same with Cystic Fibrosis and will be wearing a mask. She wears one at all times leaving the house.

lulublue22

abacus120 wrote: »

I think even for kids from 13 would find it very difficult,my daughter is 15 and will find it hard

My teenager is asthmatic and struggles with masks yet she still wears one when required. I admit a mask all day in school will be a huge challenge ( for her) But we all have to play our part unless medically unable to do so. Teenagers without health conditions should be well able to get on with it.

khalessi

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

If that's the plan, it's barely that and very disappointing. They couldn't even stretch to compulsory masks for 2nd level.

The unions will rightly oppose I assume and will be pilloried for doing the right thing.

Shudnt have expected anything else

Yup I am expecting the teachers are stopping reopening argument pretty soon

Icyseanfitz

abacus120 wrote: »

I think even for kids from 13 would find it very difficult,my daughter is 15 and will find it hard

As much as I am 100% in the "if we are back to school we all have to wear masks" Camp, kids will find it impossible. Even adult friends I have working in other sectors hate them. In post primary I can't see students abiding by wearing masks at all times

Boggles

secondary school students will be asked to wear masks on school buses, but wearing them in classes will be optional

#science

jimmytwotimes 2013

If that's the plan, it's barely that and very disappointing. They couldn't even stretch to compulsory masks for 2nd level.

The unions will rightly oppose, I assume, and will be pilloried for doing the right thing.

Shudnt have expected anything else

khalessi

abacus120 wrote: »

I think even for kids from 13 would find it very difficult,my daughter is 15 and will find it hard

My kids wear them no bother when we are shopping and both are under 13.

lulublue22

khalessi wrote: »

Now where is that nice graphic from months ago by the Scottish lad about how we move them safely to the toilet?

That video was hilarious as far as I know he did a few others re SD and first aid in the yard.

abacus120

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

Masks for 5 year olds? For 5 hours a day? Not a chance...it's extremely unfair and unreasonable to ask anyone under the age of 8 or 9 to wear a mask.

I think even for kids from 13 would find it very difficult,my daughter is 15 and will find it hard

Boggles

The South Korean Study had nothing to do with schools.

It was a test of households with confirmed cases. The schools were closed at the time.

If you hear a politician today cite the South Korean study, alarm bells.

Icyseanfitz

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Pods is a load of nonsense anyway. Most primary classes sit in groups anyway as that's what is the norm now.

Putting a nice new term on what's already standard practice.

Even in some of our post primary rooms, we would have 4 to 5 around a desk. DoE will be announcing amazing new strategies such as, multiple students sitting at the same desk haha, couldn't make this crap up, god help us all

ginoginelli

This plan is appalling. Neither kids nor teachers are safe with this.

Shockingly unsafe.

khalessi

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Pods is a load of nonsense anyway. Most primary classes sit in groups anyway as that's what is the norm now.

Putting a nice new term on what's already standard practice.

Now where is that nice graphic from months ago by the Scottish lad about how we move them safely to the toilet?

Isn't it lucky germs cant travel and that the 200+ doctors who sent a letter to the WHO saying Covid19 can be airborne were listened to. That the South Korean study has been noticed. No panic folks the pods will save us as they have worked so well for other school viruses in the past.

Pfffff who needs masks anyway?

lulublue22

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Pods is a load of nonsense anyway. Most primary classes sit in groups anyway as that's what is the norm now.

Putting a nice new term on what's already standard practice.

Practically though trying to ensure 1m between pods will be virtually impossible for most schools. It’s a nod to SD and nothing else.

wirelessdude01

Pods is a load of nonsense anyway. Most primary classes sit in groups anyway as that's what is the norm now.

Putting a nice new term on what's already standard practice.

Boggles

FishOnABike wrote: »

Visors on their own have been shown to be of little practical use.

That is true.

But they haven't been tested on excited 5 year olds who exhale 5 liters of spit when they are telling you about what the cat did that weekend.

If they are going with the "shure be grand" for classes under 3rd, If I were a teacher, KN95 valved mask and visor, whatever the practicalities of trying to teach in that is, I have no idea.

FishOnABike

combat14 wrote: »

surely students will be required to wear masks In the classroom ..

if it is not safe to enter shop now for 2 minutes without a mask and they are introducing legislation regarding same .. students will have to wear masks or at least visors while in same room all day......... ???

Visors on their own have been shown to be of little practical use. Masks should be mandatory indoors.

You can't nip into the shop for a minute without a mask how can a class be expected to spend a day in a poorly ventilated room unless everyone is wearing a facemask.

Boggles

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

Masks for 5 year olds? For 5 hours a day? Not a chance...it's extremely unfair and unreasonable to ask anyone under the age of 8 or 9 to wear a mask.

That's why you should limit class sizes and introduce pods.

khalessi

According to Irish Independent, masks on buses but optional in school for secondary students.

What??

Ya know if masks make communication difficult for teachers, they could just put a speaker and microphone system in every class and let teachers wear masks.

Boggles

the corpo wrote: »

Aye, this all seems nuts. My kids will be in 3rd and 5th. If they're sitting around a desk with up to 6 other kids in a badly ventilated classroom they'll be wearing a damn mask...

Kids in 3rd class can't get the virus. 4th class beware.

#science.

The HorsesMouth

ricero wrote: »

All teachers, staff and students should refuse to go back until it is written that masks are a requirement.

The mixed messages from this incompetent government is infuriating and frightening.

Masks for 5 year olds? For 5 hours a day? Not a chance...it's extremely unfair and unreasonable to ask anyone under the age of 8 or 9 to wear a mask.

the corpo

Aye, this all seems nuts. My kids will be in 3rd and 5th. If they're sitting around a desk with up to 6 other kids in a badly ventilated classroom they'll be wearing a damn mask...

Icyseanfitz

So post primary, students and staff can a wear a mask....if they feel like it, social distance 1-2m...where possible. Jesus Christ

the corpo

khalessi wrote: »

When they say non essential, does that include my massage chair, hammock and foot bath?

bloody teachers...

wirelessdude01

khalessi wrote: »

When they say non essential, does that include my massage chair, hammock and foot bath?

And also the wine fridge that facilitates all the gossip and affairs that teachers undertook during the lockdown. No need for those any more!!

khalessi

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Sure when the builders are in removing the wall they can just throw that non-essential furniture into the skip as well!!!

When they say non essential, does that include my massage chair, hammock and foot bath?