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How will schools be able to go back in September?

shoppergal

Just wondering if anyone can give any insight into how schools could safely re-open in September?

Everyone I'm talking to is saying they won't be back until September but in my head I'm wondering how they'll re-open even in September? The virus will still be there with a vaccine still months away at that stage.

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lulublue22

khalessi wrote: »

I'll get me crowbar

That’s the spirit :pac:

wirelessdude01

khalessi wrote: »

I'll get me crowbar

Sure when the builders are in removing the wall they can just throw that non-essential furniture into the skip as well!!!

khalessi

lulublue22 wrote: »

Now now rise to the challenge and get that furniture moved ! It’s vital to the reopening of our schools.

I'll get me crowbar

lulublue22

khalessi wrote: »

Hard luck if the furniture is fixed to the wall

Now now rise to the challenge and get that furniture moved ! It’s vital to the reopening of our schools.

ricero

All teachers, staff and students should refuse to go back until it is written that masks are a requirement.

The mixed messages from this incompetent government is infuriating and frightening.

khalessi

lulublue22 wrote: »

Oh most definitely - virus what virus sure local bespoke arrangements will take care of that - move a bit of furniture around be grand !

Hard luck if the furniture is fixed to the wall

combat14

surely students will be required to wear masks In the classroom ..

if it is not safe to enter shop now for 2 minutes without a mask and they are introducing legislation regarding same .. students will have to wear masks or at least visors while in same room all day......... ???

lulublue22

downthemiddle wrote: »

Best summarised by the yerra shure twill all be grand approach.

Oh most definitely - virus what virus sure local bespoke arrangements will take care of that - move a bit of furniture around be grand !

Boggles

Third Class and under no need for social distancing or bubbles apparently.

Because children in that age group are only 92% human.

Government guidance is for pods or bubbles in creches.

All seems legit.

downthemiddle

lulublue22 wrote: »

There’s a newspaper article re proposed changes on the other thread - if you haven’t seen it already.

Best summarised by the yerra shure twill all be grand approach.

lulublue22

downthemiddle wrote: »

Sitting here with bated breath waiting for the “very, very big plan”.

There’s a newspaper article re proposed changes on the other thread - if you haven’t seen it already.

the corpo

What do you think of the scant leaks in the papers today?
Seems to be, here's a load of money, see what it gets you and fingers crossed there's none of that nasty virus anywhere

downthemiddle

Sitting here with bated breath waiting for the “very, very big plan”.

tscul32

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

Every Irish primary school has assembly time, it's included in the allocated hours per subject. The phrase assembly time is a bit misleading. It doesn't just mean whole school assemblies, it covers arrival time/set-up in the morning as well. You'd rarely see it named assembly time on a timetable though.

Yes. They do have a settling in time in the morning, just never heard it described as assembly. When I was in school the word assembly meant whole school/year in the hall and my friend's primary regularly do school assemblies (small school) in the hall.

wirelessdude01

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

Every Irish primary school has assembly time, it's included in the allocated hours per subject. The phrase assembly time is a bit misleading. It doesn't just mean whole school assemblies, it covers arrival time/set-up in the morning as well. You'd rarely see it named assembly time on a timetable though.

I think that's a good suggestion on the split week. Not a fan of week on/week off myself either, it's a long time for kids to be out of the classroom.

I saw someone on Twitter mention that this is like the opposite of Christmas Eve for teachers :pac: Think it sums it up perfectly!

Meant to be 20mins 'reception' time each morning in primary.

BonsaiKitten

tscul32 wrote: »

Our primary doesn't have assembly time. Probably because there is a junior and a senior school and they share the hall that joins them and between them they have over 1200 students.
I think a split week is a good option if they can't return full time, say Mon/Tues or Thurs/Fri with every other Wednesday. That way if you've two working parents they can do one day a week each, maybe parental leave, and then take one Wednesday off each month. Of course you'd need accommodating employers. The problem with week on week off if that kids would be in for 5 days then off for 9 days. Think the first of each of the 5 days would be wasted getting them to settle back in.
Just been on to a friend in Georgia (state, not country). Her primary aged kids are back to school next week, half in person and half virtual.

Every Irish primary school has assembly time, it's included in the allocated hours per subject. The phrase assembly time is a bit misleading. It doesn't just mean whole school assemblies, it covers arrival time/set-up in the morning as well. You'd rarely see it named assembly time on a timetable though.

I think that's a good suggestion on the split week. Not a fan of week on/week off myself either, it's a long time for kids to be out of the classroom.

I saw someone on Twitter mention that this is like the opposite of Christmas Eve for teachers :pac: Think it sums it up perfectly!

am_zarathustra

tscul32 wrote: »

Our primary doesn't have assembly time. Probably because there is a junior and a senior school and they share the hall that joins them and between them they have over 1200 students.
I think a split week is a good option if they can't return full time, say Mon/Tues or Thurs/Fri with every other Wednesday. That way if you've two working parents they can do one day a week each, maybe parental leave, and then take one Wednesday off each month. Of course you'd need accommodating employers. The problem with week on week off if that kids would be in for 5 days then off for 9 days. Think the first of each of the 5 days would be wasted getting them to settle back in.
Just been on to a friend in Georgia (state, not country). Her primary aged kids are back to school next week, half in person and half virtual.

Good point about both taking one day. I suppose no solution will suit everyone but the 9 days in a row is actually tough going for parents when you phrase it that way.

Hopefully tomorrow will bring clarity and some good news for everyone, especially anyone with vulnerable kids

tscul32

Our primary doesn't have assembly time. Probably because there is a junior and a senior school and they share the hall that joins them and between them they have over 1200 students.
I think a split week is a good option if they can't return full time, say Mon/Tues or Thurs/Fri with every other Wednesday. That way if you've two working parents they can do one day a week each, maybe parental leave, and then take one Wednesday off each month. Of course you'd need accommodating employers. The problem with week on week off if that kids would be in for 5 days then off for 9 days. Think the first of each of the 5 days would be wasted getting them to settle back in.
Just been on to a friend in Georgia (state, not country). Her primary aged kids are back to school next week, half in person and half virtual.

combat14

we will be lucky to get to mid November before they have to close the schools again.....

wirelessdude01

Murple wrote: »

I have my fingers crossed they'll scrap the new Primary Language Curriculum!!!

I'll pray to whatever God can facilitate that.

Murple

grind gremlin wrote: »

‘Assembly Time’ to be used for hand washing time.

Assembly time will be needed more than ever to avioid everyone arriving at the same time and to facilitate staggered arrivals.
I have my fingers crossed they'll scrap the new Primary Language Curriculum!!!

feedthegoat

feedthegoat wrote: »

The stark reality is that if we are to follow the present Department guidelines then second level schools will not re open fully. We all know the great need to re open and that teachers want to return in September but let's wait and see what develops over the next four weeks.

The wait is nearly over, let's sleep on it and deal with it over the coming days.

BonsaiKitten

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

From my experience at primary level it's on the timetable but not really ever done in a lot of schools. Big rush for a few weeks at 2nd/6th class for the sacraments and that's about it. Now I do know others where it is done a few times a week but that's more the exception than the norm.

True. Instead of scheduling RE before lunch and using the allocated time to eat, it'll be RE before lunch and using the time to wash hands :pac:

I think Science, Art and Music will be extremely difficult to do while maintaining some semblance of social distancing. Maybe the RTE Home School Hub could be kept on to supply lessons for children to do at home?

grind gremlin

‘Assembly Time’ to be used for hand washing time.

wirelessdude01

the corpo wrote: »

Maybe they’ll finally ditch R.E!

From my experience at primary level it's on the timetable but not really ever done in a lot of schools. Big rush for a few weeks at 2nd/6th class for the sacraments and that's about it. Now I do know others where it is done a few times a week but that's more the exception than the norm.

lulublue22

grind gremlin wrote: »

I’m guessing time spent on music will be reduced in primary as we can’t sing indoors. How will infant teachers manage without lots of singing throughout the day? Children learn so much language through song.

I’m expecting a reduction in the curriculum at primary. Practically if start / finish times are staggered , if breaks need to be staggered it will eat into teaching time. Sanitising / ensuring children wash their hands properly and frequently will eat into teaching time. Increase in well being will eat into teaching time. Cleaning equipment before / after children use - paint brushes , laptops , PE equipment etc will eat into teaching time. There will be fierce pressure next year to get any sort of curriculum covered at primary level.

the corpo

jrosen wrote: »

I would think its quite possible and actually a sensible decision

Maybe they’ll finally ditch R.E!

grind gremlin

I’m guessing time spent on music will be reduced in primary as we can’t sing indoors. How will infant teachers manage without lots of singing throughout the day? Children learn so much language through song.

jrosen

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Anyone else think that there will be a condensing of certain curriculums announced tomorrow?

I would think its quite possible and actually a sensible decision

lulublue22

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Anyone else think that there will be a condensing of certain curriculums announced tomorrow?

Yes. INTO twitted last week re talks around the curriculum. Plus there will be an increased focus on wellbeing and sanitising something will have to give.