scrubs33 wrote: » I get the feeling that opening the schools is the Department’s main goal: keeping them open will fall to individual Boards of Management at a local level to use that particular phrase...
Boggles wrote: » FF doing a solo run here. The Devil will be in the detail. Particularly how they plan to keep schools open at that level if their is a resurgence.
nelly17 wrote: » To be honest were all speculating a bit here with the full plan due to be released Monday - hopefully we have a better picture
Sierra Oscar wrote: » I don't think teachers will get much public support if they decide to engage in an all out strike over this.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Healthy debate doesn't mean you personally have to repeat something over and over, that's just your way of doing things. Just because you might not agree with someone's views doesn't make them a 'numbskull' as you eloquently put it, that's entirely your opinion (which you are entitled to do long as you know everyone else is also entitled to theirs). Yes teachers teach, but they also follow DOE policy and according to some posters here they cannot do their job without the policy so they really go hand in hand. If DOE had any sense it would have engaged large numbers of teachers in any policymaking. As is often the case, and many companies recognise the fact, that it's the people on the ground who can give a first hand insight into what works and what doesn't.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Why do people keep bringing this up? This is not even being contemplated.
Murple wrote: » To put the €75 million in perspective. €75 million in grants was announced for creches and preschools.(0-5 year olds) €75 million in grants for all primary and secondary combined. (4-18 year olds) €168 million in grants for third level.
Sierra Oscar wrote: » It's not going to happen. At this stage it's the only way in which schools won't reopen at the end of August, i.e. if teachers refuse to cooperate with the Government plans. As you say, that isn't going to happen.
is_that_so wrote: » Just to add some context to that big 3rd level number, they usually get a lot of money from overseas students and that's not going to happen for this academic year. You might even call it a bailout!
Bobtheman wrote: » Your idiotic optimism knows no bounds. Those of who have watched the departments " progress' don't have huge faith in its planning capability. They have not really consulted which is worrying. As for me as a teacher - I am willing to go to my job so long as the same norms that apply to your workplace or any workplace apply. If you want evidence of the government s ineptitude just look at what happened with the LC. Don't worry we will probably go back to raising your kids shortly !
Sierra Oscar wrote: » True, the one thing we don't really need to speculate about is the fact that schools will be open. How they manage it remains to be seen, but they will be open. I don't think teachers will get much public support if they decide to engage in an all out strike over this.
Sierra Oscar wrote: » Are they? The Tánaiste has been very outspoken in the last 24 hours stating that schools will have to return. FG seem on board, I would imagine the Greens are too. Parents will not tolerate schools remaining closed for another few months, that much seems pretty obvious now. Patience is running thin.
However, Mr Varadkar warned that it will not be business as usual.
At the same press conference, junior minister for special education Josepha Madigan revealed that €74 will be given to each student with special needs to help facilitate their return to school.
downthemiddle wrote: » I presume you have something concrete to back up your comment about all out strike. Please produce your evidence to show that teachers are engaging in talks about strike action or withdraw the comment based on it being ill informed and slanderous to a whole profession.
Sierra Oscar wrote: » Where have I said teachers are engaging in discussions on strike action? I've clearly set out that the Government is hellbent on fully reopening schools and the only way that will not happen at this stage is if teachers choose not to return to work - i.e. strike action. There's no point attacking me. I'm just being realistic here and setting out things as they are. The Government has made a decision to reopen schools. In all likelihood the unions will be presented with a fait accompli next week by Government. As you say, teachers don't want to strike so I don't really see what else they can do but accept the Government's plans.
iamwhoiam wrote: » A question for primary teachers . I was just wondering if anyone has prepared to deal with kids who may be extremely anxious or upset about the last few months ? Although I see a big improvement in children since the are out playing etc some kids were incredibly anxious and effected by the Covid lockdown . I am wondering if there was any guidance from Principals about a way to handle the aftermath of a traumatic event in kids lives ?
lulublue22 wrote: » You made a statement that there would be no support for teachers if a wide scale strike was undertaken. Nowhere and I mean nowhere has any one made any reference to possible strike action by teachers - neither teachers , principals or unions.
Sierra Oscar wrote: » The Government has made a decision to reopen schools.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Let's see what the government announcement says. Meant to be resources/funding for this.
Sierra Oscar wrote: » Judging by Government commentary and media reports those plans could be a lot closer to 'business as usual' than many here would have predicted. As has been pointed out though, we will have to wait until next week to see the plan.
Sierra Oscar wrote: » I stand over that statement too. Strike action is the only way the Government would be forced to abandon its plans. As you say, strike action isn't on the cards. So schools will be reopened as per the Governments plans. Judging by Government commentary and media reports those plans could be a lot closer to 'business as usual' than many here would have predicted. As has been pointed out though, we will have to wait until next week to see the plan. I just wouldn't be holding out hope for much consultation being undertaken by the Government. It seems obvious to me that they are about to railroad the unions. It's not a nice way for the Government to do business (they might come to regret it down the line) but it's the reality of the situation.
downthemiddle wrote: » I know of a number of schools that will be prioritising wellbeing when they return.
