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Will you travel? [Mod Note in Post #1 - Travel Discussion Only! Megathread]

Mrcaramelchoc

Are you traveling outside of Ireland in the next few weeks?will you go now because the coronavirus is getting worse or will you cancel?
Im due to go to prague in 2 weeks and i don't know if i should?

Mod: It has been suggested to merge this with the main Corona thread, but I think a dedicated thread about travel has merit. If it becomes too much like the main thread, I'll just merge the two.

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CBear1993

Dogg Munde still acting the ballbag on here I see, some things never change!

Golf is my Game

FutureTeashock wrote: »

If people don't want to get the Rona, THEY can restrict THEIR movements.

I'm not ruining my life over others people's phobias and OCD.

You've got to follow the law though if not your just a git.

Golf is my Game

CBear1993 wrote: »

Stick to the golf eh?

It's full allowed to post on any of the forums here as far as I can see.

CBear1993

Golf is my Game wrote: »

It's full allowed to post on any of the forums here as far as I can see.

Indeed.

But when “post” contains excrement like yours one would wonder if there should be a minimum IQ test before entering a thread.

You basically just spat out what the news tells you. Thanks bot

un5byh7sqpd2x0

CBear1993 wrote: »

Dogg Munde still acting the ballbag on here I see, some things never change!

Point out the inaccuracies in my post

facehugger99

Golf is my Game wrote: »

You've got to follow the law though if not your just a git.

Law requires filling in a form - I'll do that

Law doesn't require 'restricting your movements', answering the phone to a low-level bureaucrat or telling my employer what I've been up to in my free time - and I've no intention of doing any of that nonsense.

But sure I think that's been explained to you once or fifty times already.

CBear1993

Stephen Gifted Geophysics wrote: »

Point out the inaccuracies in my post

The very idea that if a person travels to somewhere that isn’t on a last minute hatchet job of a list, they should remove themselves from public and social life for 2 weeks upon return.

That in itself is not an inaccuracy to you, because it’s exactly what RTE and Mr.Burns-Martin tell us on the news.

I prefer to look at what recognized, international health bodies with reputable world class professionals say.

Not a health service & executive that couldn’t run a bath. They’re a laughing stock.

Inaccuracy number two - you didn’t look at it from the perspective of maybe if there are still the OCD / paranoid wrecks out there, they should go on another self imposed lockdown for 6 weeks if they enjoy it so much?

If you’re vulnerable stay inside and avoid public places.

FutureTeashock

Golf is my Game wrote: »

You've got to follow the law though if not your just a git.

There is no law for me to follow.

What's your handicap, by the way?:o

bladespin

Golf is my Game wrote: »

Even if you do that you still have to do the restricted movements for 14 days so its not a way around it and not safe either.

Um, no, again.

Golf is my Game wrote: »

It's full allowed to post on any of the forums here as far as I can see.

Yes but you really probably shouldn't if you didn't know that it's not a legal requirement, it's been posted over a dozen times at this stage.

[Deleted User]

Golf is my Game wrote: »

You've got to follow the law though if not your just a git.

14th time.

It's not a legal requirement

pjohnson

CBear1993 wrote: »

Indeed.

But when “post” contains excrement like yours one would wonder if there should be a minimum IQ test before entering a thread.

You basically just spat out what the news tells you. Thanks bot

Yes better to spit out whatever conspiracy/alt news rubbish you found. That'll show off your IQ alright :pac:

faceman

A British run tabloidesque newspaper in Spain publishes an article about holidaying in Spain, giving out about tabloid media in the UK scaremongering

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/07/22/sensationalistic-headlines-from-british-gutter-press-attempt-to-scare-brits-away/

CBear1993

pjohnson wrote: »

Yes better to spit out whatever conspiracy/alt news rubbish you found. That'll show off your IQ alright :pac:

Ah so it’s a conspiracy now to question why people believe everything they hear from a single state run media in RTE? Or a circus of a government ?

Some people actually look further afield to see what internationally renowned health experts are saying, outside of Ireland.

But yes, go ahead and tarnish me with the conspiracy theorist brush pjohnson, despite me suggesting nothing of the sort. Your side like to do that when other people won’t do what they’re doing.

It’s not alt news, it’s asking for someone to point out the law that says you must restrict your movements?

Stay indoors wee p.

FutureTeashock

Can I travel freely from Ireland to any country with open borders? YES!

Do I need to take any notice of the Govt's ludicrous Green List? NO!

Am I required by law to isolate or restrict my movements after returning from anywhere in the world? NO.

All of the above are 100% facts and cannot be argued because they are incontrovertibly true.

[Deleted User]

yoshimitsu wrote: »

ok maybe I should tone down my rhetoric. Didnt mean to make you feel insulted in any way

I didnt understand you were referring back to March given that we are talking about the green list just issued 3 days ago, NL's current restrictions, Spain's regionalized infections, etc. So in March, I agree with you, many EU countries took very different measures as everybody was trying to figure out how to best protect themselves. But now, July 2020, the status quo is quite homogeneous and Ireland's positions does stand out (as reported by many continental news outlets).
IMO, it has nothing to do with Shengen. Romania and Spain - for example - are part of the Shengen agreement but many other EU countries have some form of restrictions to travel there, total or regionalized. France is considering closing it's eastern boarder with Catalunya. It's not about Shengen, it's about telling people where they should or should go to on a regional basis.

As to your point about half the Irish people not knowing where the Canaries are, I'm not Irish so maybe a give a bit too much credit to the indigenous geographical competences but I would think that someone who gets on a 4.5hr flight to an island off the coast of Western Africa would be aware of the difference to flying to a region bordering France on the Mediterranean.
But maybe other Irish posters are more qualified than me in making that assessment

Fair enough.

You do give too much credit. I know people that still talk about the 'mediterranean' cruise they took from the UK to the caneries via Portugal.

People that ask how far by car from Ibiza to where I am. No, they don't know there's a ferry needed.

That's just European countries I'm limiting too.

Duke of Url

FutureTeashock wrote: »

Can I travel freely from Ireland to any country with open borders? YES!

Do I need to take any notice of the Govt's ludicrous Green List? NO!

Am I required by law to isolate or restrict my movements after returning from anywhere in the world? NO.

All of the above are 100% facts and cannot be argued because they are incontrovertibly true.

We can debate common sense.

bladespin

Duke of Url wrote: »

We can debate common sense.

Yes, of course but that's not what the thread's about.

Duke of Url

I wont be taking a vacation outside or within Ireland this year.

bladespin

Duke of Url wrote: »

I wont be taking a vacation outside or within Ireland this year.

Think you would have to go to america for one of those

[Deleted User]

Duke of Url wrote: »

I wont be taking a vacation outside or within Ireland this year.

Why?

Duke of Url

Deleted User wrote: »

Why?

Its a trust issue

Im not putting myself in a position that I have no control over like Flights and Hotels Hygiene inside or outside of the country..

realdanbreen

Ibiza! Ibiza! Ibiza! Off tomorrow for 2 weeks, can't wait!

bladespin

Duke of Url wrote: »

Its a trust issue

Im not putting myself in a position that I have no control over like Flights and Hotels Hygiene inside or outside of the country..

This I can understand and respect. I would suggest it's a little ott but you must do whatever to feel safe.

bladespin

realdanbreen wrote: »

Ibiza! Ibiza! Ibiza! Off tomorrow for 2 weeks, can't wait!

Was literally just watching a video from there a few mins ago, looks amazing and strangely quiet - I like.

stargazer 68

bladespin wrote: »

Was literally just watching a video from there a few mins ago, looks amazing and strangely quiet - I like.

Sister came back yesterday. Said it was fabulous and beaches were lovely and quiet

Gael23

Aside from the shambles of a green list, I dint think travel would be very enjoyable this year. Having to wear a mask for your entire journey and probably lots of sights closed or severely restricted at your destination

CBear1993

Parents in Switzerland at the moment and having a lovely time in Zurich. Sending photos and videos as we speak. No masks to be seen and nice low numbers of crowds.

Golf is my Game

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

14th time.

It's not a legal requirement

Well I saw something on the government websites or department of travel and I think health and safety people that you have to do that so really people shouldnt be ignoring what the experts are saying and just thinking they do their own thing because it's suits them and they don't care about others and the elderly and sick and so on.

d15ude

Golf is my Game wrote: »

Even if you do that you still have to do the restricted movements for 14 days so its not a way around it and not safe either.

No you don't, it's only an advice/guidance.

CBear1993

Golf is my Game wrote: »

Well I saw something on the government websites or department of travel and I think health and safety people that you have to do that so really people should be ignoring what the experts are saying and just thinking they do their own thing because it's suits them and they don't care about others and the elderly and sick and so on.

Any chance of some use of punctuation there ? Wasn’t sure if that was a random jumbling of words, or one massive sentence.

Golf is my game, illiterate is my middle name.

So called “experts” you refer to are all contradicting each other within our one small island and government.

You sound like a young child who has been randomly handed the microphone on the news in the middle of graft on street to look cute and give their input.
“Oh you saw something on a website did you! Tell all the people what you saw, good boy”