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How many people on Boards have a mask and if so are you wearing them for essential trips? And this late in the day where can you get one that is going to be half decent and not from a suspect seller who could have done anything to it?

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Jim Gazebo

madcabbage wrote: »

Once you’ve your nose and mouth covered in some shape or form you should be ok. Masks, scarfs, buffs, face shield etc

Sound, it says cloth covering on HSE website as well just wanted to double check as I've seen more masks than anything else while out.

is_that_so

GazzaL wrote: »

Many pubs are already open. No masks required in them though. You can take your time and eat and drink to your heart's content without a mask, but if you don't wear a mask while spending 60 seconds popping in and out of a shop to pay for petrol you'll be judged by the same people who were banging on about staying in lockdown until there wasn't a single case of COVID-19 left in the world.

Seek out the Pay at Pump stations. I've been using them for a while, even before this. Saves queuing.

weldoninhio

khalessi wrote: »

Nothing to do with a pandemic, rising numbers and increase in people mixing. Good to know.

What rising numbers? We’ve been told from the start that all measures were to flatten the curve and keep numbers in hospital down. We currently have 11 people in hospital, 8 in ICU. Isn’t this the lowest we’ve had since the pandemic started??

weldoninhio

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

Question on masks.. I've been away with work , no need to go into the shop last week or two, what is acceptable as a covering? I need petrol today and don't have any proper mask, but I don't want to go in without one. Is a buff ok to use as a covering? It's like a tubular scarf? Or does it have to be a mask?

Anything at all Jimbo. Amazingly an old T-shirt or pair of old jocks give you the same protection as a surgical mask apparently.

Pauliedragon

2 cops in my local supervalu yesterday without masks. Surely they should be leading by example even if it isn't law.

is_that_so

Pauliedragon wrote: »

2 cops in my local supervalu yesterday without masks. Surely they should be leading by example even if it isn't law.

It isn't law yet, not until we get regulations. May well be a clause that doesn't require them to do so and it's hard to arrest yourself!

timmy_mallet

khalessi wrote: »

Nothing to do with a pandemic, rising numbers and increase in people mixing. Good to know.

Well one of the key reports that the WHO are using to back up requests for mask usage, and that those on here are pointing to (there's a link a few pages back) as evidence says as much also.

timmy_mallet

MadYaker wrote: »

Is this honestly your view of what’s happening because that would explain a lot.

Sat beside 2 x tables of 4 in a restaurant for 90 minutes the other night, not a mask in sight. Don't you think it's a little hypocritical and illogical?

weldoninhio

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Sat beside 2 x tables of 4 in a restaurant for 90 minutes the other night, not a mask in sight. Don't you think it's a little hypocritical and illogical?

Did they have protective €9 meals?

timmy_mallet

weldoninhio wrote: »

Did they have protective €9 meals?

Gaggling, tipsy, shouting, laughing, enjoying themselves, about 100 (outside seating too) people in the venue... Not a mask in sight. Not a cluster in sight. But strict mask usage when they popped in to get a loaf in SuperValu on the way home.

[Deleted User]

GazzaL wrote: »

Utter nonsense. The same store attendants would have been safely dealing with the public throughout the pandemic and probably don't feel like the risk level has dramatically changed since Sunday night, despite the lies and bull**** from the mask nazis.

People don't seem to want to address this. Shops haven't been a major risk all along. Sure i'll wear a mask because its mandatory and it may make a small difference, but lets not get hysterical about it. Shops are not where this has primarily been spreading, so lets not make out that masks are going to save us all. The places where it spreads are places where masks won't be introduced e.g. restaurants/bars/houses

is_that_so

AdamD wrote: »

People don't seem to want to address this. Shops haven't been a major risk all along. Sure i'll wear a mask because its mandatory and it may make a small difference, but lets not get hysterical about it. Shops are not where this has primarily been spreading, so lets not make out that masks are going to save us all. The places where it spreads are places where masks won't be introduced e.g. restaurants/bars/houses

Many in the first two would fold if such a policy were introduced and the last one is a civil liberties minefield.

jmayo

GazzaL wrote: »

Utter nonsense. The same store attendants would have been safely dealing with the public throughout the pandemic and probably don't feel like the risk level has dramatically changed since Sunday night, despite the lies and bull**** from the mask nazis.

Up until a few weeks ago that could have been ok because there might have jut been two or three people in at a time.

Now it is back to normal and is full of people.
There were 12 people in the queue snaking around the shop and they have had to recently put up big signs to tell people which way to go because I have discovered Irish people can't fooking follow a one way system and are forever either turning back into the queue or queuing from the wrong side.

Yeah everything is lies and bullshyte, of course except the shyte you believe in. :rolleyes:
The risk levels are increasing exactly because of people like you who of course no better than multiple governments around the world that have faced even worse epidemics than Covid19 and found masks to be good way of alleviating transmission.

moonage wrote: »

We're being forced to wear them for psychological reasons.

It's behavioural science rather than medical science that is driving this—in order to keep fear levels high and sustain the hysteria.

FFS.
Yeah that is why surgeons wear mask in ORs.
It is all for psychological reasons.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

One example.

The petrol station and shop I was in this morning wasn't letting anybody in without a mask. Guy was at the pumps telling people before they got fuel and plenty of signage on it.
All other shops here were insisting on masks.

Well it is good that that is what you are finding because I am finding the opposite.

GazzaL wrote: »

Many pubs are already open. No masks required in them though. You can take your time and eat and drink to your heart's content without a mask, but if you don't wear a mask while spending 60 seconds popping in and out of a shop to pay for petrol you'll be judged by the same people who were banging on about staying in lockdown until there wasn't a single case of COVID-19 left in the world.

It wasn't 60 seconds you ...
I was in the queue for 10 minutes.

By fook you must be great altogether that you can run into the shop jump the queues and fling the money at the attendant.
Then again looking at your attitude you probably are the type that would try jump the queues.

The more I see of and hear from some Irish people the more I reckon we have just as many halfwits as the UK and US that we continually laugh at for their political failings.

Why can't they develop a virus that removes those types of people and do so all a favour.

Sconsey

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Gaggling, tipsy, shouting, laughing, enjoying themselves, about 100 (outside seating too) people in the venue... Not a mask in sight. Not a cluster in sight. But strict mask usage when they popped in to get a loaf in SuperValu on the way home.

Is this more of your sh1te Timmy? you were able to tell us that there have been zero cases of transmission in shops in Irelend ever (no evidence mind you, just made up).

Hard to take anyting you say seriously, especially the fact that you can now spot clusters from your restaurand seat :rolleyes:

timmy_mallet

Sconsey wrote: »

Is this more of your sh1te Timmy? you were able to tell us that there have been zero cases of transmission in shops in Irelend ever (no evidence mind you, just made up).

Hard to take anyting you say seriously, especially the fact that you can now spot clusters from your restaurand seat :rolleyes:

Not sure which part of the restaurant observation you're disputing? If it's just the cluster, then fair enough, but given there isn't one, and we're Wednesday, all evidence is pointing towards none.

I don't have to prove to you there were 0 cases of customer transmission during lockdown w/o masks. You're labouring the point. If the CMO and HSE etc can prove there was one, then fine, but they can't. Again, all points towards 0. Happy to be corrected if you have the evidence of transmission though... do you?

timmy_mallet

jmayo wrote: »

FFS.
Yeah that is why surgeons wear mask in ORs.
It is all for psychological reasons.

Er, have any of you read that report that the WHO are using? Masks can reduce in specific scenarios, like the one you mention. In shops, for eg, the evidence points towards them being a 'placebo', by encouraging people to socially distance.

dalyboy

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Er, have any of you read that report that the WHO are using? Masks can reduce in specific scenarios, like the one you mention. In shops, for eg, the evidence points towards them being a 'placebo', by encouraging people to socially distance.

And hilariously this placebo is counterproductive as people wearing masks inevitably believe they are protected against transmission and often break the 2M distance rule

timetogo1

dalyboy wrote: »

And hilariously this placebo is counterproductive as people wearing masks inevitably believe they are protected against transmission and often break the 2M distance rule

Hilariously? Really? Or is that an exaggeration like many of the posts on this thread?

How about saying that some people are able to wear masks and keep the 2m rule. FFS most people can manage to put on a mask and stay 2m apart. Yes there are some thick people (look back over this thread) but if somebody tries to come closer to me (because they think masks make them immune) I'm able to walk away from them. This is not rocket science.

Sconsey

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Not sure which part of the restaurant observation you're disputing? If it's just the cluster, then fair enough, but given there isn't one, and we're Wednesday, all evidence is pointing towards none.

I don't have to prove to you there were 0 cases of customer transmission during lockdown w/o masks. You're labouring the point. If the CMO and HSE etc can prove there was one, then fine, but they can't. Again, all points towards 0. Happy to be corrected if you have the evidence of transmission though... do you?

Yeah I thought so, it is the same old sh1te. The burden of proof is on the person making the statement (or in this case making up the facts). You are the one saying there were zero cases, for that to be a credible statement you would have to know where all cases came from...you are just making it up as you go along,

[Deleted User]

Plenty of smart arses in this thread lately who need to get the Ban Hammer.

timmy_mallet

Sconsey wrote: »

Yeah I thought so, it is the same old sh1te. The burden of proof is on the person making the statement (or in this case making up the facts). You are the one saying there were zero cases, for that to be a credible statement you would have to know where all cases came from...you are just making it up as you go along,

The evidence points towards 0 cases. Unless you have something that proves otherwise, why would we speculate?

Sconsey

timmy_mallet wrote: »

The evidence points towards 0 cases. Unless you have something that proves otherwise, why would we speculate?

What evidence would that be? the stats say 'community transmission', where is the breakdown of community transmission? Looking forward to seeing your evidence.

Elmer Blooker

moonage wrote: »

We're being forced to wear them for psychological reasons.

It's behavioural science rather than medical science that is driving this—in order to keep fear levels high and sustain the hysteria.

Of course, its obvious. Am I the only one to notice that the 'wear a mask' campaign didn't begin in earnest until June 8th when the first restrictions were lifted and people were becoming more relaxed.

Loafing Oaf

AdamD wrote: »

The places where it spreads are places where masks won't be introduced e.g. restaurants/bars/houses

Indeed, I guess this begs the question of whether restaurants and bars should be reopening at all...

dalyboy

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Indeed, I guess this begs the question of whether restaurants and bars should be reopening at all...

Yeah. The restaurants and bars should be closed indefinitely, sure it’s only going to be hundreds of thousands of jobs directly and indirectly effected by that action.

The magic tree in the garden of Leinster house will fund the closures.

Tork

So what is the answer? We either take steps to try and stop the virus spreading in the community or we don't.

dalyboy

Tork wrote: »

So what is the answer? We either take steps to try and stop the virus spreading in the community or we don't.

We can’t “stop the virus”. By its very nature a virus can only be managed. What we are doing at the moment is managing it and at the same time trying to have a semblance of an existence both socially and economically.

If we push things much further with restrictions it’s going to be counterproductive as we need an economy to financially survive and pay for our services.

Not being smart but where did you get the idea that this virus could be stopped ?

Tork

Poor choice of words on my behalf. I meant slowed rather than stopped.

timmy_mallet

Sconsey wrote: »

What evidence would that be? the stats say 'community transmission', where is the breakdown of community transmission? Looking forward to seeing your evidence.

Point me to where the contact tracing and community transmission reports say 'Tesco - Ballyfermot'

lalababa

Went into 3 charity shops in Cork, most punters ..no mask ...in two shops till person no mask...into the metropole hotel...no guests had masks , neither the servers. WTF??
Went to the hotel bar, two cops conducting inquiries on another matter...I do believe they had masks on..fair play. The bar next door had all the food/masks/distancing requirements ...the bar next to that the distancing was 2x the width of the back of a light timber chair..ie 2-3 inches.