repulsebay321 wrote: » American chiming back in here... I have already asked my Irish boyfriend to do the talking for me in restaurants after reading all this BS on the internet.
is_that_so wrote: » Some flights include our own people coming home. A better solution is to talk possible tourists out of it at the other end, for now. The airlines, DFA, State Dept and tour agencies can all do that and stress the 14 days requirement here.
is_that_so wrote: » That's actually an equality discrimination case right there. Don't restaurants take mobile numbers for possible tracing anyway?
A restaurant and pub has a right to refuse of they believe or are concerned there could be damage done to property or the safety or their staff. They could try and sue, and they'd be rightly told to f*CK right off
Overheal wrote: » There’s a lot of that going on stateside.
s1ippy wrote: » Except it's not really BS though is it, America does have a much bigger problem with covid and we are importing cases from there and other places. Obviously there's going to be prejudice given the context, it's a public health issue. Frankly it perplexes me that a healthcare worker wouldn't understand that. I sympathise but I'd urge you to be a bit more forgiving. Direct your blame at the Americans holidaying here rather than the Irish who are powerless and worried.
theological wrote: » They should ban flights absolutely from the US, and say stay away. Irish nationals should be told to leave immediately. This idea of businesses being able to discriminate on nationality without proof thought is nonsense. They would be absolutely thrashed in court by the customer. Discrimination laws don't just disappear in a pandemic. The simple point is that the government should be taking this responsibility and banning on entry so we don't end up with stupid arguments about businesses banning Americans.
ShineOn7 wrote: » As already said well by Weepsie
is_that_so wrote: » How about not directing any blame at all? It's the kind of hysteria mode that has the potential to cause unpleasant incidents.
is_that_so wrote: » If you imagine an expletive-laced post is evidence of quality you might want to reflect on your standards. If you intentionally prevent entry because of race that is a case under the Equality Act.
threeball wrote: » These businesses are protecting their customers and staff because the government are failing to. Every business has the right to refuse service.
Weepsie wrote: » A restaurant and pub has a right to refuse of they believe or are concerned there could be damage done to property or the safety or their staff. They could try and sue, and they'd be rightly told to f*CK right off
threeball wrote: » Americans are not a race in case you didn't notice.
saabsaab wrote: » There are 9 grounds that you are not allowed to discriminate on. Being American isn't one I can't see a case in law being upheld.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Repulsebay few questions Do you realise how badly your country is dealing with c19 You seem to have issues with Irish people actually you know, stepping up to defend our own situation here. It’s not any sense of vindictiveness. It’s based on how badly your country is doing. Maybe this Country is not for you and you should migrate back to America?
threeball wrote: » No reason we should put up with it.
theological wrote: » Not based on nationality. That is discriminatory. Again, the right place for this to be dealt with is with the government and the authorities, not with vigilante crap like this.
threeball wrote: » Yes just wait till you and all your staff have to quarantine because you are infected by some asshole who doesn't even believe it exists. Then close. Thats a genius idea.
threeball wrote: » They are basing it on quarantine, not nationality. Brazilians or South africans would be treated the same. Its common sense not discrimination.
is_that_so wrote: » Race/nationality is.
Overheal wrote: » List the 9 please then
theological wrote: » You somehow seem to be missing the point. The restaurant aren't immigration officers. They can't check if someone is living in Ireland and resident, or not living in Ireland and a tourist. The authorities should be doing this. Not businesses, and businesses would get absolutely thrashed in court if they overstepped their bounds in this way, because it is discrimination based on nationality. It's not hard to understand.
threeball wrote: » Businesses have a duty of care to staff and customers that trumps any discrimation clap trap. You cannot knowingly endanger your staff. Your discrimation bs would be thrown out on its ear, especially in this environment.
Leviticus 14:8 Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Quarantine The one to be cleansed shall then wash his clothes and shave off all his hair and bathe in water and be clean.Now afterward, he may enter the camp, but he shall stay outside his tent for seven days.
Overheal wrote: » Nvm helped myself:http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2000/act/8/enacted/en/html (2) As between any two persons, the discriminatory grounds (and the descriptions of those grounds for the purposes of this Act) are: ( h) that they are of different race, colour, nationality or ethnic or national origins (the “ground of race”), So let's just all fcuk right off with this retarded 'America is not a race so discriminating against them is okay' guttershyte. She'd have that hotel dead to rights in a court of law, even just for posting that "NO AMERICANS ALLOWED" notice to facebook.
