Mrsmum wrote: » I don't have children at Primary level anymore but just wondering did people find the RTE hub classes any use and could they be expanded as a better or more serious teaching tool, like properly doing the alphabet with small kids or teaching a history/georg/maths lesson ? The more I'm reading this and seeing reports about cases rising, the more I think two days in and three days at home is as good as it's going to be. I'm imagining teaching/new learning being done in the school days, then the home days spent doing practice work ?? Another thing in my mind at the moment is school uniforms. Normally I would have two sets per child, some items being hand me downs. I heard I think a principal on the radio suggesting children use their own clothes this year so parents wouldn't have to buy multiples of school uniforms as they may have to be washed every day. Things like that parents would want to know about now.
Murple wrote: » This idea of live streaming teaching may seem great but it presents a huge amount of difficulties. For a start, in every family, every child would have to have simultaneous access to a tablet/laptop/desktop with WiFi and sound on, in a different room/space for each child. Think how manageable that would be in a family with 3 primary age children. There would need to be parental help available to sort any issues, keep the child focused etc. as the teacher is not going to be interacting with those at home. Younger children especially would quickly switch off. The teacher would have to stay in the same place all the time to stay on camera and ensure they were heard. Unless you had professional standard recording equipment, the picture and sound would be of poor quality and those at home wouldn’t be able to see text on the board or hear everything being said for example. The child protection issues and GDPR issues are huge. Every teacher would have to agree to being filmed and every parent would have to agree to their child possibly being filmed also. Personally I wouldn’t agree to it as it would set schools up for a whole heap of trouble. If schools are reopening, teachers will teach the children in school. If a parent chooses not to send their child in, they will have to make their own provisions.
Murple wrote: » If schools are reopening, teachers will teach the children in school. If a parent chooses not to send their child in, they will have to make their own provisions.
ziedth wrote: » I would be a fairly passive and easy going guy and especially with all that is going on in the world I would like to try an do my part to help others and obviously my own kids. However, I will not be teaching my kids in September. Both Myself and my wife work full time and while i'm happy to help the kids with homework in he evening if needs be there is no way I'm coming in from a 10 hour day and then a further few hours to try and teach my 8 year old geography (or whatever). Even if we were both out of work I can't see how that is fair? I'm not a teacher and I know for a fact I wouldn't be any good at it. Should my kids suffer because I'm not up to the task?
NelRom wrote: » That does sound unusually unreasonable. To a much lesser extent and not related to tech- do you not deal with some of this anyway from parents in the normal scheme of things around curriculum, ability, homework not done?
FC1 wrote: » It sounds like you were dealing with very unreasonable people. It was not your fault if they did not find the time to watch the content. I get your frustration.
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » But they still complained. And looked for changes. As for streaming live lessons, it's not effective in my experience and many who thought that's what they wanted realised it was actually not. I taught a small group of Leaving Certs during lockdown because they had no teacher. Their parents wanted live lessons. Then they wanted recorded content instead, or as well in some cases. Then they wanted both. Then they wanted just work set and corrected. Then they complained when I did all of that because it wasn't fair that the others were moving on with stuff in live lessons when their child hadn't had time yet to watch the recorded content. And it wasn't fair that others were moving on with recorded content when their child could only look at questions. So basically they all wanted different things and essentially private grinds. Not to mention that what their children wanted was not what they wanted. It was a full time job for 8 students. And I would definitely never agree to it again during to unreasonable expectations.
NelRom wrote: » But those parents who didn't want to engage in the taught/ streamed element could still do the set work/ correct work part- so would still get what they want. However, most parents who want actual teaching streamed etc. did not get that.
Sanjuro wrote: » You're absolutely not alone. We've a 6 year old and a 4 year old, and it's been absolutely draining. Both my wife and I have full time jobs that aren't going anywhere and while the teaching of our daughter is minimal, the childcare is another full time job on top of our own ones. It's completely unsustainable and causing us untold stress.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Still waiting on the department. I heard of a school that gave work at 9am, midday and 3pm. Every piece was expected.to be done and uploaded to the teacher. Emails and then phone calls were received it that didn't occur. Total overload but dictated by the principal so the teachers had to comply even though they mostly didn't agree with it.
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » Yes, it might be for you. Other parents specifically requested what you are complaining about. Opinions on what worked vary greatly.
FC1 wrote: » I completely agree with you. I too had a similar experience. I believe though a plan could be put in place to standardise homeschooling so that every school is the same. I think if it was kept simple with some interaction from teachers it could work. Before the summer hols my children's schools expectations of what we could achieve at home with no interaction ( just 1 email per week) was ridiculous.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Still waiting on the department to step up and give us some practical advice, guidance and guidelines. There should be no need for us or parents to be trying to second guess what will be happening or parents talking about taking groups of kids for lessons.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » We both working parents here and it's been really difficult. I don't think I'd be able to continue the juggling act for much longer, feeling burnt out to be honest and I haven't been able to give any aspect of home/work/school 100% of the full attention they deserve. I'm probably not alone in feeling guilty and overwhelmed.
NelRom wrote: » One would wonder if we are realistically heading toward universal social income if primary schools don't go back and parents are expected to become educators past the initial basics mentioned in the constitution. I believe secondary schools have been much better about the online teaching?
NelRom wrote: » Even the challenges of this would be better than the 'set work/ correct work' setup I had.
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » All kids on mute is for teaching a group fully online. If some are in the classroom then you can't mute them if you are delivering a proper meaningful lesson to them, which is live streamed to part of the class at home. But what you describe has been done by many teachers. It has not worked for many students. And many parents have complained about various aspects of this set up, from inadequate tech to access live lessons at a certain time, to not being happy with students watching content without interaction.
jrosen wrote: » As I said all kids stayed on mute, teamed with short sessions on line. Parents seemed of the opinion it delivered. Look its worth exploring like other suggestions because right now it they dont seem to have much else.
iamwhoiam wrote: » How many parents are at home and not working and could give that time to a child ? Or indeed to two or three children? Many parents are working full time either away from or at home . Parents have babies to mind or children with special needs to care Education would be totally unbalanced and some having time to educate at home and many others not being able to at all
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » As much as it is trying to take the initiative that won't be allowed. Not with child protection laws, insurance etc there are standards and procedures in place for a reason.
