Squeeonline wrote: » Why don't you give us your opinions on 5G while you're at it. I'm sure you have all the answers.
murpho999 wrote: » More time to suppress the virus and bring the R number down which has been rising over the last couple of weeks.
We’ve said before that this estimate is really quite unreliable when you’ve got very low numbers, and therefore the estimate is varying quite widely
Tenzor07 wrote: » If part of the idea is to get the number of cases down to zero or single figures so the schools can go back..and pushing the re-opening of pubs until August 10th means if there's any "Spike" in cases it will come just before the schools reopen meaning a large number of parents could be infected and will have to isolate with the kids also and not send them back to school... So can anyone see the pub opening date being kicked down the line even further?
robbiezero wrote: » So what changes in 3 weeks time?
robbiezero wrote: So what changes in 3 weeks time?
paw patrol wrote: » call me obnoxious then. We have opened up the country a bit and have gone from about 350 active cases to 571 (a small increase as would be expected) - with only 9 people in serious condition. NINE!! We have a population of 5million. The numbers are so low. These restrictions are not justified by any stretch. And there is no scientific benefit to wearing a mask . None. It's amazing the number of people posting here who believe in the man on the telly . Micheal Martin whom most of you wouldn't piss now yet now take his word as gospel. How easy have most of you just given up your basic freedoms. How easy are you being controlled ? Think about how quickly you have lost all that and think of the gombeens who are cheering it along. It's tragic that we are being effected by this climate of fear. If restrictions work , then they'd close the boarder and allow us operate within the country in relative isolation. But they don't do that. Why? Cos they don't know what they are doing.
paw patrol wrote: » How easy have most of you just given up your basic freedoms. How easy are you being controlled ? Think about how quickly you have lost all that and think of the gombeens who are cheering it along. It's tragic that we are being effected by this climate of fear. If restrictions work , then they'd close the boarder and allow us operate within the country in relative isolation. But they don't do that. Why? Cos they don't know what they are doing.
ablelocks wrote: » it's a good thing - from what I've seen, social distancing is not happening effectively in shops or restaurants. Not at the beach or on the streets. Not at all in sports training I'm involved in or by supporters at the challenge matches I've been to. There isn't a hope in hell that a pub can operate and not be a focal point for COVID 19. Think about it - the people who are getting out and about as it is aren't doing what they're supposed to do.If the pub's reopened on Monday, it would coincide with the restart of most GAA (and other sports) matches. So on the weekend of the 25th, people will go to a match, congregate in the ground, roar and shout and then go to the pub! If Covid could talk this is what it would ask for - a perfect opportunity to reset and tear into us again. Look at the evidence from around the world in countries that have eased their lockdowns. I love going to the pub (or used to) but this is just asking for our hospitals to be overloaded again and all our efforts over the last 5 months will have been in vain.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » I understand the meal rules but they are nonsense. If I want go tomorrow sit down for 105 or whatever ridiculous number it is now have a few pints and go home,. I shouldn't have to eat overpiced food too
hmmm wrote: » Very little of this is enforceable, that's not the type of country we are. It's your personal decision whether to be part of the national effort or not. Lots of people are taking it seriously. A minority of loud and mostly obnoxious people are not.
sydthebeat wrote: » Lockdown the areas of high incidents and high risk behaviour.
hmmm wrote: » And how do you stop everyone heading to (say) Galway if the pubs in Limerick are closed? Or what happens people who work in Cork who commute from Kerry? Or a farmer who has a field on one side of the county border? What about people who live close to the border of their county, and they have friends/family/shops/hospitals etc on the other side?
NIMAN wrote: » If counties are doing well and have no new cases in weeks, they should get relaxations in front of places that can't control themselves.
Assetbacked wrote: » This is my 4th pint of the evening, post-work, with dinner ingested and contact details provided. It is shocking that I couldn't do the same thing without the food for another few weeks but I can have gaff parties with less accountability to my heart's content.
BPKS wrote: » This is the nub of it. Why not just shut down areas of the country that have high cases. Like Dublin. Don't let people in or out for a month. The house party you refer to was a bunch that travelled from Dublin to Killarney when one of them was awaiting the results of his Covid test. (That a-hole should be locked up by the way - what he did was way worse that those people 'coughing' on Guards back a few months ago). Kerry was Covid free for 30 days in a row around May/early June. Is there a case for allowing everything to open in unaffected areas and restrict travel to/from areas where there are significant numbers? But then again that wouldn't suit the people in NPHET cos most of them probably live and work in the area with the significant numbers.
boombang wrote: » Show me your foolproof rule for differentiating between drinking establishments in which people will behave sensibly and those in which they won't. Show me the same rule that all pubs will be happy with. We were in a smart enough restaurant. Not the place where you'd expect that behavior. I like the pub. I just think we need to deal with this deadly virus in a sensible way. If we can't expect everyone to be sensible in the pub, they we're going to have to wait longer.
BPKS wrote: » Is there a case for allowing everything to open in unaffected areas and restrict travel to/from areas where there are significant numbers? But then again that wouldn't suit the people in NPHET cos most of them probably live and work in the area with the significant numbers.
hmmm wrote: » The idea that they are doing this because some people don't like drink and see an opportunity is clearly nonsense, and worse on you if you really think this. The government are taking their advice from the people in public health who are dealing with mass idiocy like house parties in Killarney where tens of people are getting infected. They can see what way the numbers are looking, and it's not looking good. So we need to get some control back before we can move ahead with further reopenings. Wear a mask. Stop going to house parties. Physical distancing from other people. That's what will get the pubs opened.
hmmm wrote: » The idea that they are doing this because some people don't like drink and see an opportunity is clearly nonsense, and worse on you if you really think this.The government are taking their advice from the people in public health who are dealing with mass idiocy like house parties in Killarney where tens of people are getting infected. They can see what way the numbers are looking, and it's not looking good. So we need to get some control back before we can move ahead with further reopenings. Wear a mask. Stop going to house parties. Physical distancing from other people. That's what will get the pubs opened.
almostover wrote: » Would you be willing to admit that we have an unhealthy relationship with alcohol in this country?
mossie wrote: » Few of those countries have the same pub culture we do though.
Richard Hillman wrote: » Simon Harris and Varadker were on an absolute mission to try and end the drinking culture in Ireland over the last 4 years. They have been constantly lobbied by health Quangos and NGOs to go after alcohol. NPHET is run pretty much entirely by health professionals who no doubtedly have links or are apart of the anti-alcohol lobby. This is their golden ticket. It is 100% an anti-alcohol thing.
The White Wolf wrote: » A locked fool in a restaurant isn't indicative of how people will behave in their quiet local. Hope you enjoyed your meal btw.
