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How will schools be able to go back in September?

shoppergal

Just wondering if anyone can give any insight into how schools could safely re-open in September?

Everyone I'm talking to is saying they won't be back until September but in my head I'm wondering how they'll re-open even in September? The virus will still be there with a vaccine still months away at that stage.

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Bananaleaf

Great news that PPE will now be mandatory in shops. This indeed is great for schools as one would imagine we will be provided with some form of PPE.

Nice to see the same characters are about, still asking questions that have been answered many times already. Honestly, I think some people must actually find reading painful

CruelSummer

Schools in the EU were already open prior to the summer break and no adverse rise in cases due to that, we have to open. The ramifications of denying our younger generation Education is enormous. They do not get adversely affected by the virus and need to be among their peers - not isolated in their homes indefinitely.
If the government won’t give funding for PPE and other vital measures needed to allow schools to reopen, I say we organise protests in whatever form possible, online/ socially distanced/ what ever works - in conjunction with parents and students that demand our schools be given funding for vital sanitary, health & safety and other Covid procedures. It goes without saying vulnerable or at risk teachers should be given special leave at this time to protect themselves.

Bananaleaf

To the parents mentioning buying uniforms, I have heard rumours (and it has also been mentioned on this thread by someone) that students wont be wearing uniforms so that they can wear fresh/clean clothes every day and parents not under pressure to keep washing the uniform.

Also, on the travel, I'd imagine you would have to be refunded if you pay in full and there isn't a full return.

Its awkward that we know nothing and the closer it gets to return time, the more of these kinds of things will pop up.

I saw a woman buying copies and pens in lidl the other week and I could see it in her face, she was thinking 'I mean, are they even going to be using this?'

ldy4mxonucwsq6

timmy_mallet wrote: »

If even.

Meanwhile the majority of the rest of Europe has managed to be back at school 2 months already.

This is why schools should have been ready to go at the first sign of things returning to normal and at least got a couple of months in before restrictions being reintroduced.

Schools reopening in September is looking less and less likely by the day.

I have got school books and paid the contributions (maybe I shouldn't have?) but am holding off buying any uniforms until there's a clearer plan.

Not wasting anymore money if its not going to be necessary.

I honestly think there will be tears here if there's no plan soon (probably mine). The lack of anything solid is very unsettling.

Meanwhile summer camps are running and sports are back so it's some consolation for the kids.

jrosen

The uniform thing is silly I think. Kids could come in wearing the same non uniform clothes anyway. I would imagine it would make more sense to stop all crested items, which tend to be more expensive anyway and just go for generic ones.

Yes travel will be refunded. Refunds for end of last school term are being current rolled out.

khalessi

Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »

Meanwhile summer camps are running and sports are back so it's some consolation for the kids.

With restrictions, I am coid supervisor in GAA and the chldren have to have a health questionnaire updated before each training session and there are other restrictions in place for both parents and children. Some summer camps could not take place due to restrictions in place.

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s1ippy wrote: »

Wearing masks is being made mandatory in retail environments, now surely DoE will have no choice but to provide PPE and insist it is worn by school staff and students.

They can't even provide toilet paper and hot water.

With the restrictions being put back in place on meeting people at home and public places I can't see schools resuming.

iamwhoiam

jrosen wrote: »

The uniform thing is silly I think. Kids could come in wearing the same non uniform clothes anyway. I would imagine it would make more sense to stop all crested items, which tend to be more expensive anyway and just go for generic ones.

Yes travel will be refunded. Refunds for end of last school term are being current rolled out.

I don’t think the uniform thing is silly at all . No one has enough uniforms to change and wash every day . Most kids would be happy to change clothes I imagine . Parents of younger kids could dress them in clean clothes every day but they could not put them in clean uniform every day
My granddaughter wears a tracksuit which is heavy and impossible to get dry overnight or even in a few days

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How will parents be expected to have clean clothes every day. The washing would be extreme

jrosen

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I don’t think the uniform thing is silly at all . No one has enough uniforms to change and wash every day . Most kids would be happy to change clothes I imagine . Parents of younger kids could dress them in clean clothes every day but they could not put them in clean uniform every day
My granddaughter wears a tracksuit which is heavy and impossible to get dry overnight or even in a few days

If the point of it is to ensure fresh clothes every day it is. Kids will wear the same coat, the same shoes, the same hats and gloves come winter. I would have thought it defeats the same purpose.
But non uniform is just another pressure to put on parents and kids.

GazzaL

If a child wears the same jumper to school two days in a row, who'll stop them first, the COVID police or the fashion police?

iamwhoiam

jrosen wrote: »

If the point of it is to ensure fresh clothes every day it is. Kids will wear the same coat, the same shoes, the same hats and gloves come winter. I would have thought it defeats the same purpose.
But non uniform is just another pressure to put on parents and kids.

I didn’t make the suggestion ! Not sure where it came from to be honest but I would not rule it out automatically

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GazzaL wrote: »

If a child wears the same jumper to school two days in a row, who'll stop them first, the COVID police or the fashion police?

They'll just be tazered and the parents hauled off to a reeducation centre

wirelessdude01

Where did the no uniform thing come from? Seen it on here but nowhere else.

jrosen

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Where did the no uniform thing come from? Seen it on here but nowhere else.

Ive seen it shared on social media but no source

OrlaFS2017

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Where did the no uniform thing come from? Seen it on here but nowhere else.

Probably because freshly laundered clothes is a crèche requirement now. So people are assuming that the school requirements may be similar

timmy_mallet

OrlaFS2017 wrote: »

Probably because freshly laundered clothes is a crèche requirement now. So people are assuming that the school requirements may be similar

Honestly, who comes up with this nonsense? People tying themselves in bloody knots, some curtain twitcher emailing the school or whatever saying 'have you thought about this...'. Utterly, utterly ridiculous.

rovers_runner

Teachers delighted, danger money pay claims incoming..
All in the interests of the children of course...

wirelessdude01

rovers_runner wrote: »

Teachers delighted, danger money pay claims incoming..
All in the interests of the children of course...

ðŸ™„

Bananaleaf

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Where did the no uniform thing come from? Seen it on here but nowhere else.

I saw it on here too but nowhere else until Sunday when I was talking to an ex colleague who is a deputy principal.

Ex colleague wasnt claiming to have any inside knowledge, they just said it was doing the rounds as a suggestion.

I can see the pros and cons of it myself but to those instantly dismissing it as 'stupid' ... this just goes to show that in fairness to Dept of Ed, no matter what they come up with in Sep (please DoE ... come up with something!!!) they'll be slated for it

Bananaleaf

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Don't forget to mention your finder's fee.

There's no budget for that I'm afraid :pac:

Scoondal

I'm planning a cheap holiday in Lanzarote in early December. I will tell the school that I am anxious about covid19 at that time.

ldy4mxonucwsq6

Bananaleaf wrote: »

I saw it on here too but nowhere else until Sunday when I was talking to an ex colleague who is a deputy principal.

Ex colleague wasnt claiming to have any inside knowledge, they just said it was doing the rounds as a suggestion.

I can see the pros and cons of it myself but to those instantly dismissing it as 'stupid' ... this just goes to show that in fairness to Dept of Ed, no matter what they come up with in Sep (please DoE ... come up with something!!!) they'll be slated for it

Well if it is being suggested then they might want to let parents know ASAP before they going spending precious cash on something that isn't going to be needed.

Scoondal

My son's teachers have been useless since 15 March. All respect has been lost. Cheap holidays (with homework ) now on my agenda.

History Queen

Scoondal wrote: »

My son's teachers have been useless since 15 March. All respect has been lost. Cheap holidays (with homework ) now on my agenda.

I'm really sorry for you and your son that that has been the case. I note you say teachers,
is he second level? Surely not all of his teachers were useless? What were the issues? (If you don't mind me asking)

Scoondal

History Queen wrote: »

I'm really sorry for you and your son that that has been the case. I note you say teachers,
is he second level? Surely not all of his teachers were useless? What were the issues? (If you don't mind me asking)

No, he is in primary.
There has been no connection between pupil and school. All work was sent to parents. No interactive pupil to class via internet. No communications directly to the pupil.
It has really opened my eyes to home schooling and what is best for my son's education in the coming months.

Blondini

rovers_runner wrote: »

Teachers delighted, danger money pay claims incoming..
All in the interests of the children of course...

I'm actually cringing with embarrassment for you, I really am.

timmy_mallet

Bananaleaf wrote: »

I saw it on here too but nowhere else until Sunday when I was talking to an ex colleague who is a deputy principal.

Ex colleague wasnt claiming to have any inside knowledge, they just said it was doing the rounds as a suggestion.

I can see the pros and cons of it myself but to those instantly dismissing it as 'stupid' ... this just goes to show that in fairness to Dept of Ed, no matter what they come up with in Sep (please DoE ... come up with something!!!) they'll be slated for it

Please explain the pros of fresh clothes every day in curbing the spread of a respiratory illness that over 99.7% of the tested population dont have. It is absolute utter drivel, I'm sorry, but if the DoE are suggesting this they deserve to be 'slated'

rovers_runner

Blondini wrote: »

I'm actually cringing with embarrassment for you, I really am.

I'm sure you are, but at the same time giddy at the prospect of that long awaited pay rise.

timmy_mallet

Scoondal wrote: »

No, he is in primary.
There has been no connection between pupil and school. All work was sent to parents. No interactive pupil to class via internet. No communications directly to the pupil.
It has really opened my eyes to home schooling and what is best for my son's education in the coming months.

That's terrible. If you can homeschool, do it, plenty of evidence that outcomes are better. (This is not a dig at teachers)