Mysterypunter wrote: » It didn't take long for Roy Keane to walk his dog while the rest of the squad were in a penalty shootout against Spain, that man is a cartoon character and an idiot, wildly overrated bag of wind, he does some whinging for a so called hard man. This is about Jack Charlton, and his way of dealing with the players was man management, Big Paul McGrath was a genius who liked his soup, so Jack turned a blind eye, the squad were close knit and performed to the best of their ability, so I would have no issue with his management style, but I would have huge issues with the FAI suits, that's the one thing I agreed with Roy Keane on.
Woke Hogan wrote: » I have nothing but respect for Charlton (RIP) helping McGrath through that horrible illness. But it is fair to say Charlton took his foot off the pedal a bit regarding discipline with the squad in general. The squad and the FAI kept that party atmosphere going until the 00s which eventually lead to the Saipan incident.
Mysterypunter wrote: » I agree with a lot of that, but the expectation wasn't there at the time, so it was treated a bit like an extended session
BorneTobyWilde wrote: » I was thinking just lately, as in last year, that it would have been good to have a Late Late Show special dedicated to Jack, while he was around. These things only happen when he's gone though. Makes no sense. He deserved to be reminded in life of how much he meant to so many.
Woke Hogan wrote: » RIP to Charlton. But, to be fair to him, he and some English/Dublin-born members of his squad didn't always have the respect for playing for Ireland. Respect I suspect they would have had had they played for "them across the water," as some of them would undoubtedly have preferred. Pie eating contests, Guinness taps in the hotel at USA 94, turning up to matches drunk or hungover. The rot of mediocrity had set in and it didn't take until 2002 for the Corkonian Roy Keane to speak up and set the wheels of progress in motion.
Cal4567 wrote: » One of the good guys. Loved his fishing. Bumped into him once in Ballina when I was there for a few days, back about 20 years ago. Didn't even know then he had a holiday home close by. RIP Big Jack.
SEPT 23 1989 wrote: » For all the younger folk wondering why your fathers are feeling a bit down today Imagine the complete opposite of a Covid lockdown and watch this One small area of Dublin but scenes like this happened in villages towns and cities all over the country
EmmetSpiceland wrote: » Come on Judging from the post above you are, clearly, “wound up”. Look, maybe you’ve just had a few too many and are taking your grief at Big Jack’s passing out on Dunphy? It’s not a good “look”, to be honest. When you look at the players we had back then it does not “marry” well with the style of football we played. Some of those games are just dreadful to watch. You could argue that with a different manager getting that team to play “beautiful” football that they’d have gone out in the group stages or, even, failed to qualify but that’s just hypothetical. They got further than anyone else by playing a style of football that bypassed a midfield combination who’s like we will, probably, never see again. I, personally, feel that you should apologise for your use of the term “retarded”. It’s an ugly word and has no place on this site. I will accept the editing out of that part of your post in lieu of, said, apology.
Lucy8080 wrote: » Have you ever read Roy Keane's take on the '94 world cup? He basically says that Jack had the balance right.
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » Regardless of what people think of Keane, Giles etc, you can respect their opinion somewhat as they played the game at the highest level. However when you look at people like dunphy a nobody in comparison, who tried to make his name by mouthing off and slating Jack, any wonder so many disliked dunphy.
Church on Tuesday wrote: » People tend to confuse a cultural zeitgeist moment for a nation with the hard facts of Charlton's time as manager. The passing of time and over sentimentality has no doubt played a part in this. Obviously under Jack there were some great moments; beating England and the most memorable of all, beating Italy in the Giants Stadium are, in and of themselves, outstanding sporting achievements.However the football deployed under Charlton was dire. Like really dire. Which is a shame because we actually had some very talented players, who under a better manager could have literally achieved anything. People point out Hand and Giles; neither were exceptional by any standard as managers and were seen as relatively safe bets by the FAI at the time, as was Jack. The man achieved his initial remit; get Ireland to a major tournament and he did just that and even repeated it on another two occasions, which is a fair achievement, but lets not fool ourselves here that the man is/was the savior of Irish football when the talent was already there but essentially wasted by the conservatism and usual shortsightedness of the FAI. But sure look, Ole Ole away.
Tell me how wrote: » Using your logic, you shouldn't be expressing an opinion on Dunphy so, which is it, he is entitled to his opinion, or you should stop slating him for having one?
Justin Credible Darts wrote: » You claiming nonsense does not it so. As for your pathetic "had a few", another figment of your imagination. Jack dying and Dunphy being a nobody that did nothing of note in the game are separate issues, so not sure why you foolishly think they are the same thing. While you are telling people who should apologise, perhaps you might reflect upon your own stupid accusations. It is my opinion Ireland over achieved, and Jack got the best out of them, not if you choose to think otherwise, that is fine, that is your opinion, but it does not make it fact, and bandying about accusations wont make your opinion more factual.
Lucy8080 wrote: » Liam Brady story about Jack..... Jack Charlton's first words to me were, "You're number eight,Ian." I said, "Ian Brady was the Moors Murderer ,Jack." R.I.P. Big Jack.
Kane Thankful Beer wrote: » Tbh I hate soccer, can't stand the game. But I was totally swept up by the whole Italia '90 experience and was a fully fledged member of Jacks Army. Myself and my wife went up to greet the team back, we were on the newly built M50/airport round about along with 60,000 other supporters who lined the streets of Dublin. My son is soccer mad, and absolutely Liverpool crazy. He was born in 92 but he loves listening to stories of Italia 90 and the atmosphere in Ireland at the time. We never chat about soccer, I knows I think its a pansies game for fairies and primadonna'sa but I got a text from him re. Jack dying, and like everyone else I went to Youtube to relive some old and very fond memories. Italia 90 was the last time I watched a game too and right now I couldn't name our manager or a single player, but Jack and that summer were something magical and will live on forever.
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