Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Mortelaro wrote: »

Funerals aren't touched, they just get lip service
Its just such a pity so many ordinary funerals stuck by the numbers rule resulting in more grief
As Sinn Féin have shown, it was all for nothing

So 1800 'RA men and women can turn up at a funetal and nobody does anything? GFA stays intact?

You guys credibility just finally gave it's last sigh and departed.

1800 'RA. Just wow!

Pkiernan

What about funerals for Gerry and Mary Lou's disappeared?

SafeSurfer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So 1800 'RA men and women can turn up at a funetal and nobody does anything? GFA stays intact?

You guys credibility just finally gave it's last sigh and departed.

1800 'RA. Just wow!

There have been bigger breaches of the GFA in fairness.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So 1800 'RA men and women can turn up at a funetal and nobody does anything? GFA stays intact?

You guys credibility just finally gave it's last sigh and departed.

1800 'RA. Just wow!

I didn't say they were 'Ra
Why are you saying I did?
My comment was on numbers

Mortelaro wrote: »

I didn't say they were 'Ra
Why are you saying I did?
My comment was on numbers

You answered my question about the RA by saying 'funerals aren't touched'. Why would you say that if you didn't think they were the IRA?

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You answered my question about the RA by saying 'funerals aren't touched'. Why would you say that if you didn't think they were the IRA?

Because I meant by coronavirus fines or police action regarding that,have you heard of any north or south? I haven't

dundalkfc10

Pkiernan wrote: »

What about funerals for Gerry and Mary Lou's disappeared?

Mary Lou is involved in what? Serious allegations there

Mortelaro wrote: »

Because I meant by coronavirus fines or police action regarding that,have you heard of any north or south? I haven't

My question was very specifically about what the poster was claiming.

Mortelaro wrote: »

Funerals aren't touched, they just get lip service
Its just such a pity so many ordinary funerals stuck by the numbers rule resulting in more grief
As Sinn Féin have shown, it was all for nothing

I believe they achieved the funeral which was the point.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

My question was very specifically about what the poster was claiming.

It would be ridiculous to think there are 1800 Ra members in the North at this stage,they stopped recruiting in the mid 90's
I'd say even you're not a member

The 1800 stewards alone broke the rules by a factor of 60
But in good old Irish policing,the funeral wasn't stopped out of pragmatic respect for the dead
Such a high profile funeral because of the numbers has to be investigated but Mon knows no charges will be laid
Thats not a vindication

The whole thing is an affront to 1000's of grieving who stuck to the rules though because they were told to by Michelle I'll have a random man take a selfie with his arm around me o neill that they had to
She being hugged when 100's of grannies and grandads were dying alone

An absolute disgrace

This thread has 195 pages so far.

They really haven't gone away and their apologists are a total disgrace.

But they never recognised An Garda Siochana as being legitimate anyway. Remember your man Ferris bringing Garda killers home from Castlerea?

The underbelly of SF will forever be associated with this kind of thing. It will never go away for the vast majority. And look at the calibre of some of the candidates elected this year also. The local SF Cumainn have a lot to answer for as has MLMD.

Anyway, I await the backlash. But I don't care anymore. Hope the time in opposition works out for them all. Hurlers on the ditch as always, with a dark underbelly.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

This thread has 195 pages so far.

They really haven't gone away and their apologists are a total disgrace.

But they never recognised An Garda Siochana as being legitimate anyway. Remember your man Ferris bringing Garda killers home from Castlerea?

The underbelly of SF will forever be associated with this kind of thing. It will never go away for the vast majority. And look at the calibre of some of the candidates elected this year also. The local SF Cumainn have a lot to answer for as has MLMD.

Anyway, I await the backlash. But I don't care anymore. Hope the time in opposition works out for them all. Hurlers on the ditch as always, with a dark underbelly.

The opening line tells me you either ignored or dismissed 90% of the posts.

Mortelaro wrote: »

It would be ridiculous to think there are 1800 Ra members in the North at this stage,they stopped recruiting in the mid 90's
I'd say even you're not a member

The 1800 stewards alone broke the rules by a factor of 60
But in good old Irish policing,the funeral wasn't stopped out of pragmatic respect for the dead
Such a high profile funeral because of the numbers has to be investigated but Mon knows no charges will be laid
Thats not a vindication

The whole thing is an affront to 1000's of grieving who stuck to the rules though because they were told to by Michelle I'll have a random man take a selfie with his arm around me o neill that they had to
She being hugged when 100's of grannies and grandads were dying alone

An absolute disgrace

To be honest I think a lot of your opinion is politics based.

Had MON's involvement in the selfie and the incidents of no social distancing not happened the vast vast majority of people would have had the compassion and empathy they had when they said nothing about the same issues9bar the selfies) at the state funeral and the SDLP one.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So everyone...including Unionists, the British, the various monitoring bodies are looking at the 'RA, 1800 strong openly parading the streets of Belfast and doing nothing about it?

Cool story.

As far as I am concerned Sinn Fein and the 'RA as you call them are one and the same. Some like Adams, Ferris, Slab, Story, Ellis etc actively involved in subhuman behaviour and others such as the lovely Mary Lou and Michelle willing glove puppets happy to scratch out what grubby advantage they can to boost their careers.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

To be honest I think a lot of your opinion is politics based.

Had MON's involvement in the selfie and the incidents of no social distancing not happened the vast vast majority of people would have had the compassion and empathy they had when they said nothing about the same issues9bar the selfies) at the state funeral and the SDLP one.

Had Mon's Selfie not happened, I'd still be giving out about the 1800 stewards and that such a huge funeral couldn't have been private with a celebration later
I've no issues at all with the State funeral
There were no stewards there only Gardai and family

Truthvader wrote: »

As far as I am concerned Sinn Fein and the 'RA as you call them are one and the same. Some like Adams, Ferris, Slab, Story, Ellis etc actively involved in subhuman behaviour and others such as the lovely Mary Lou and Michelle willing glove puppets happy to scratch out what grubby advantage they can to boost their careers.

I don't see them any differently to soldiers returning to normal life after a conflict/war.
Awful things are done in war and conflict, but millions have returned to normal and fulfilling lives after.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I don't see them any differently to soldiers returning to normal life after a conflict/war.
Awful things are done in war and conflict, but millions have returned to normal and fulfilling lives after.

Thats the big big lie Francie. There was no war. The "soldiers" were squealing about a shoot to kill policy when the Brits shot back: only willing to do "active service" if it involved burying a woman on a beach, planting a bomb in a pub full of young people or breaking the legs of terrified teenagers. Cruel criminal scum of the very lowest kind

Truthvader wrote: »

Thats the big big lie Francie. There was no war. The "soldiers" were squealing about a shoot to kill policy when the Brits shot back: only willing to do "active service" if it involved burying a woman on a beach, planting a bomb in a pub full of young people or breaking the legs of terrified teenagers. Cruel criminal scum of the very lowest kind

Anyone could childishly pick out things other soldiers do in wars too Truth.

IMO it was a war, not in the conventional sense, but a war nonetheless. I always use conflict/war because this silly debate is tiresome.

Truthvader wrote: »

Thats the big big lie Francie. There was no war. The "soldiers" were squealing about a shoot to kill policy when the Brits shot back: only willing to do "active service" if it involved burying a woman on a beach, planting a bomb in a pub full of young people or breaking the legs of terrified teenagers. Cruel criminal scum of the very lowest kind

So you wouldn't consider yourself a Shinner?

Finty Lemon

Cremation destroys DNA evidence

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Anyone could childishly pick out things other soldiers do in wars too Truth.

IMO it was a war, not in the conventional sense, but a war nonetheless. I always use conflict/war because this silly debate is tiresome.

Go to bed so and have a rest so from your incessant posting. The vast majority do not agree with you, and will not.

Finty Lemon

In 2014 Bobby Storey issued an email to all SF councillors enforcing silence on the issue of sexual abuse allegations against IRA members.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Go to bed so and have a rest so from your incessant posting. The vast majority do not agree with you, and will not.

Except the Irish Government, British Government and members of the general public, hard to gauge how many TBF. T'was a political conflict. The clue is in how it was stopped.

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Bowie wrote: »

The clue is in how it was stopped.

They filled the provos with informers?

Despicable organisation is SF, it tries so much to push forward the so called intellectuals like O'Broin to prove how progressive and educated some of their cohort are. And do their best to bring the middle class into their fold.

Few will be taken in by this, as the core vote couldn't even spell his name, and they are full of RA stuff anyway from the start.

The day someone changes my mind about this I will reconsider, but for now, NO. Too much involvement from NI. Ugh.

Bowie wrote: »

Except the Irish Government, British Government and members of the general public, hard to gauge how many TBF. T'was a political conflict. The clue is in how it was stopped.

Good to see some kind of peace in fairnesss, and thanks.

But it is just under the surface for many who would really like to think otherwise and give the benefit of the doubt.

I gave up after the Storey funeral TBH, be there or be square, Corona doesn't matter.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Anyone could childishly pick out things other soldiers do in wars too Truth.

IMO it was a war, not in the conventional sense, but a war nonetheless. I always use conflict/war because this silly debate is tiresome.

More flakey dishonest efforts to justify the indefensible.

In every war there are sick people who take the opportunity to indulge themselves. My Lai in Vietnam, ethnic cleansing in Serbia, concentration camps Bloody Sunday, Korean rape Camps. Most of the soldiers do not participate; the ones that do are war criminals and should be treated as such

The " 'RA "as you so affectionately call them devoted themselves almost exclusively to subhuman criminal behaviour, murdering random innocent people who posed no threat to them, shooting unarmed farmers in front of their families, mutilating young people out for a night in pubs and crippling teenagers who did not show the right level of respect.

Whatever they are they are not soldiers and their pretendy uniforms, misuse of the Irish flag and comical funeral services for dead criminals certainly doesn't buy them any more credibility

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Despicable organisation is SF, it tries so much to push forward the so called intellectuals like O'Broin to prove how progressive and educated some of their cohort are. And do their best to bring the middle class into their fold.

Few will be taken in by this, as the core vote couldn't even spell his name, and they are full of RA stuff anyway from the start.

The day someone changes my mind about this I will reconsider, but for now, NO. Too much involvement from NI. Ugh.

I see SF and the IRA as connected. Did you know some SF members were in the IRA? True story.
More members of the public voted for SF than FG. Oops.

Finty Lemon wrote: »

In 2014 Bobby Storey issued an email to all SF councillors enforcing silence on the issue of sexual abuse allegations against IRA members.

Did you not get the memo?

A brave supporter and advocate for peace and gentle but wise old friend to Mary Lou's children