JP Liz V1 wrote: » https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/parents-who-bring-children-on-holidays-abroad-are-jeopardising-return-to-school-in-september-covid-committee-told-39347296.html I may have picked up wrong
lulublue22 wrote: » President of the National association of principals and deputy principals spoke to an oireachtas committee according to RTE.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Where are you getting that idea?
JP Liz V1 wrote: » So teachers don't want kids who travel abroad on holidays back but what about teachers who travel abroad for holidays?
lulublue22 wrote: » Are you suggesting that a post by one person who hasn't identified as a teacher and hasn’t suggested closing all schools for the next school year but simply pointed out that a school in melbourne is a source of a cluster equates with every single teacher in Ireland being some how weak / afraid to return to school /
markodaly wrote: » Why do you need all the extra money when there is no need to social distance for the kids? It is pretty much as you are, except for teachers perhaps needing to wear face masks and use some hand sanitizer. But, Ireland appears to pay its teachers more. Maybe we can even up the pay and use the savings for PPE? :P
markodaly wrote: » If that is the case, we should shut down all schools until there is a vaccine. So goodbye school year 2020-2021... I would have thought teachers were made of more hardy stuff.
markodaly wrote: » Why is every post, met with another question about other events? I am genuine here. Is it ever possible to discuss the subject raised?
Charles Babbage wrote: » Freedom from infection by a fatal disease is also a right, is it not?
deiseindublin wrote: » Jeez, fab idea, that'd be great. Hang on a minute, just double checking, do we get the Dutch budget?
markodaly wrote: » On a more sombre note, this article does explain that a childs education is a human right, and by closing schools, both governments and Unions are standing in the way of that right, by not agreeing to openning schools.
markodaly wrote: » To be honest, this type of response smacks of elitism. I am not going to re-read 5500 posts to please you, thank you very much. It is your choice to respond to me or not. You can ignore me, if you want.
As spring wore on, many other countries began rethinking distancing in schools. The Canadian province of Quebec, which reopened many elementary schools in May with strict distancing, has announced fall plans that allow children to socialize freely in groups of six; each group must stay 1 meter away from other groups of students and 2 meters away from teachers. Although French preschoolers were photographed sitting inside their own recess squares in May, day cares there have now abandoned all distancing rules for children ages 5 and under. Older students are advised to stay at least 1 meter away from others while inside. But outside they can play freely with others in their class. The Netherlands recently announced that anyone under age 17 does not need to distance.
In addition, both countries’ governments considered the equity implications of school closures and reopening. In Finland, according to a news report, the government emphasized that “the right to basic education is a subjective right laid down in the Constitution and belongs equally to everyone.” In Denmark, as secondary students spent much of the term learning remotely, end-of-year assessments were suspended for the school year. The main reason provided for suspending these assessments was to avoid increasing inequality between those students (many of whom are immigrants) who have not been able to get help from school or at home.
History Queen wrote: » ... if you bothered reading the thread you'd know this was already suggested...
Bananaleaf wrote: » Yeah I think you are right about us having to learn to adapt to the situation. For what it's worth, schools are absolutely manky places and I for one want to be back asap so that we can hopefully get the schools kitted out with perspex screens on teachers desks etc ... stuff that would protect us from all the regular cold and flu germs that live in schools. Sometimes I think that if we wernt closed so early in March, all that stuff would be in place already, waiting for our return! Would have been handy
markodaly wrote: » It seems the 1m rule from the HSE is the major stumbling block here, I would suggest that an exemption be given to children (obviously those who are more vulnerable would have to be looked after another way) in a classroom so that children can get back to the normally of a school setting. Teachers and adults could, of course, keep the 1m rule between each other and parents.
markodaly wrote: » I did a quick search there and it seems .....
lulublue22 wrote: » I think we are at a stage where we need to live / make accommodation with this virus. There is so much conflicting information that it’s difficult to ascertain what’s the likely outcome. There are now indications that it’s more airborne than was initially thought - there is also talk now of increased asymptomatic transmission. The level of conflicting information is mind boggling. I could see adults being expected to social distance as much as possible but not children. At this stage it needs to be about opening schools while minimising risk. I think testing will be paramount to this and also clear guidelines around such issues as children coming to school sick. Parents and employers will need to row in behind that one.
markodaly wrote: » Sorry, but I am not going to trawl through over 5000 posts, most of it just noise, to find pertinent information. If you could link that post though, I would be grateful.
