Pauliedragon wrote: » Anyone know why it's telling me this app is not available in your country. I checked region in settings it's set to ireland so nothing wrong there.
Curtis Cuddly Marsh wrote: » I bet the fools who won’t install this app for privacy fears have Google Maps installed.
Peregrinus wrote: » Effective to do what? It's a contact-tracing app. The idea is that it supplements conventional contact tracing practices. The more it is downloaded and used the more it will supplement them, but any amount of downloading/use provides more benefit than zero downloading/use would.
How Soon Is Now wrote: » Does Bluetooth need to be turned on constantly for this to work or?
GooglePlus wrote: » Are you using a VPN?
WoollyRedHat wrote: » To be supplementary for contact tracing. The whole idea is to capture people who were in close proximity to you that you don't know. If only say 5% download it, it's not going to be a very effective tool for contact tracing purposes. Anyway I see optimum hit rate is 25% as a base.
Shamboo1801 wrote: » I took part in the initial testing for the app and was very impressed with it. They asked at the end of the testing, did I see any reason why the app wouldn't be successful, I said numbers would be too low on the uptake. Thankfully, judging by the comments here, I may have been wrong.
John Hutton wrote: » do you need to be connected to the internet for it to work? The parents never have any data cause they're too cheap
Peregrinus wrote: » I agree, if only 5% download it, it won't be very effective for contact tracing purposes, but still more effective than if no-one downloads it. But take-up does make a big difference. If only 20% of people download and run it then, for a random person who is infected but doesn't know it, there is a 1 in 5 chance that he is running the app when he, say, gets on the bus. And the guy who sits next to him also has a 1 in 5 chance of running the app. The chances that they are both running the app are (works out sum with burnt match on lino on the floor) just 4%, which means that 96% of potentially infectious contacts between strangers will go untraced. But if 80% are running the app, then the chances of this contact being traced go up to 64% - you're tracing nearly two-thirds of potentially infectious contacts between strangers, which would be huge.
El Weirdo wrote: » 50,000 downloads in the last ~30 mins.
Evil_g wrote: » Where you seeing this? Apple / Play store? Or the graphic within the app?
scouser123 wrote: » How does it know if someone had it and then is clear? Does that not mean that a lot of people will get tested unnecessarily or is there a process for 'clearing' you from the system?
GarIT wrote: » International organisations have said that a 60% uptake of the app would be enough to eliminate the virus entirely. Even if two people were unlikely to have the app eventually some will so it breaks the chain of the infection going right back to the first person. 60% uptake would prevent the R number ever going above 1 without any other prevention measures for people who have not been contacted by the app.
Keyzer wrote: » Nice app, installed and hopefully many others do. If you're worried about privacy consider first the amount of personal data you've already surrendered to social media. The app asks you for minimal information which is bound under GDPR. I would encourage people to install the app.
GarIT wrote: » It only operates for 14 days prior to being diagnosed. And hopefully for a period after being diagnosed.
irishguy1983 wrote: » Have not looked into this too much but does the privacy argument really hold up? Like are FB, google, not tracking my every movement anyway? Does it make a difference?
Idioteque wrote: » Yeah I think this could be a problem. With most modern Smartphones barely lasting a day, Bluetooth usually eats your battery so if you're out and about and you need your phone, usually the first thing to turn off is Bluetooth. Hopefully there's some sort of low-power Bluetooth state if it recognises you're not moving around etc. otherwise I think many will uninstall it if their phone lasts half it's usual time due to BT being on constantly.
Peregrinus wrote: » Just to be clear, the app does nothing at all to eliminate the virus, or to reduce the R number. It just provides information about potentially infectious contacts that have taken place. What effect this has on the spread of the virus depends entirely on how effectively the public health authorities make use of that information, how fast they do it, and how compliant people are with the public health advice they receive.
