downthemiddle wrote: » That circular is for primary capitation. I’m on the phone at the moment so can’t link the secondary circular. Secondary capitation is greater than primary.
Lillyfae wrote: » Thanks for this, very interesting reading. So a school without a civil service employee as a caretaker/secretary and over 100 students have about 15 grand per year to spend on another staff member, and about the same to spend on basic running costs and insurance. Also, primary and secondary schools are funded to the same level. Disgusting.
jrosen wrote: » I want to know if teachers in our school are expected to use their own money.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Primary or secondary? Reason I ask is because my next door neighbour, who is a secondary teacher, said they've been told by principal to prepare for full remote teaching. More chance of primary being more 'properly' back as we have alot less movement and easier to implement these so called pods.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Query what? Sure you said you aren't asked for money. Schools are busy enough in a normal September, can only imagine what this September is going to be like. If you are approaching the school over something that isn't of immediate concern just leave it until October.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Disgusting waste of money or disgusting that funding is so low?
jrosen wrote: » Parents should be aware, if the school are asking for money to cover basic supplies like toilet paper and soap or heating then they should be shouting it from the rooftops. Maybe they are? But its something Im going to query with my own school once we are back
downthemiddle wrote: » Schools are funded based solely on their enrolment figures. The larger the school the greater the grant. However the smaller schools still have to deliver the same curriculum and buy the same resources. The grants always leave a shortfall for schools. Schools then have to prioritise where they spend money. The ancillary staff grant covers the payment of salaries for secretaries and caretakers.https://circulars.gov.ie/pdf/circular/education/2018/76.pdf The capitation grant is for all other expenditure, curricular, insurance, cleaning, heating, lighting etc.https://assets.gov.ie/19794/9b7a44dcfd2d4532badfe78f27839a8e.pdf
downthemiddle wrote: » I haven't said anything about my professional or personal situation You are imagining things again. I'm not qualified to help you with your obvious confusion.
BonsaiKitten wrote: » Do you pay voluntary contributions? Some of the money goes there. You may also be in a very affluent area where school fundraisers bring in a lot of money. Conversely, your child could attend a DEIS which receive more state funding than a non-DEIS school.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » So you've never been asked for a voluntary contribution to the school?
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Pretty sure downthemiddle said they aren't a teacher nor a parent to school going kids. Maybe I'm confusing them with a different poster though, some of them sound the same.
jrosen wrote: » I have never paid for basic supplies, we have a caretaker. He isn't full time but he is there most days for a period of time. How come some schools struggle and others dont? Genuine question?
Lillyfae wrote: » As a teacher your opinion is very relevant, but I don’t think you’re actually qualified to make that assessment. Neither am I, but I’m not blatantly saying your opinion is wrong, or that my opinion is fact. The system doesn’t work now, something (Or lots of things) needs to change, and urgently.
Lillyfae wrote: » Educators are not managers. Take your pick. Parents paying for basic supplies such as toilet paper. Lack of hot water. No caretaker. Class sizes too big. These are all pre-COVID issues too, and all raised by teachers in this thread.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » In your opinion what doesn't work about the system and needs to change? Leaving aside your idea about taking management of schools out of educators hands.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Yes it was for the 19/20 year, we usually have a final parent teacher meeting in May and scores make up part of the end of year reports. I'm sure most parents should be very aware by now of what their kids need to work on after the past few months. So missing this years one won't be a big deal.
downthemiddle wrote: » The only element that really matters in any school is the quality of teaching and learning. Without an educator in charge teaching and learning will suffer.
