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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Pkiernan

I haven't seen or heard anything from Mary Lou, Slab Murphy and other good Republicans in ages.

What's going on?

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Mortelaro

smurgen wrote: »

You seem to be in here more than most. I don't log on for weeks and anytime I come in for a gander you're in here whinging.

haha,the only time I whinge on boards lad is about bad weather
Lovely today

imme

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

They would just come back and say "How many FG members and supporters think its ok for a TD of FG attending a funeral where social distance rules were broke?"

We could do this all day its a ****ing disgrace to act like this over a funeral

The matter of whose funeral it was has all but been forgotten,
A hero to some
A shadowy gangster to others

Truthvader

Bowie wrote: »

War is a terrible thing alright.

"War" is not some abstract plague that arrives like covid 19. It requires people like Bobby Storey prepared to plant a bomb at a shop and blow the legs off a teenage girl to get what he wants. And in anticipation of the "whataboutery"; it also requires a Parachute Regiment so ill disciplined and out of control that they murder 13 innocent people.

Both acts are subhuman and despicable - and neither justifies the other except in the mind of an person like Bobby Storey

Truthvader

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

So really you just want to abuse Sinn Fein and point score over a funeral.

Nope want to call out the hypocrisy and Sinn Fein double think every time I see it

McMurphy

imme wrote: »

The matter of whose funeral it was has all but been forgotten,
A hero to some
A shadowy gangster to others

That's true for most of ours, and indeed all countries history and conflicts around the world.

Just this very week Michaél gave his intentions of hanging Dev on his wall right next to Collin's.

Both were viewed as one or the other by FFG over the years, so too by the British.

One man's terrorist, another man's blah blah blah.

Wasn't it Flanagan wishing to give the RIC/Black and Tans an official state commemoration that arguably led to FG haemorrhaging seats in Feb afterall?

markodaly

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

As Sinn Féin have pointed out, they set up streaming of the funeral which 1/4 of a million people watched and they couldn't be held account for how many people turned up to line the streets.

They can be held to account as to why a Cork SF travelled all the way to Belfast for this jolly.

McMurphy

jh79 wrote: »

There is no evidence that she has immunity due to prior in infection.

https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19#:~:text=There%20is%20currently%20no%20evidence,from%20a%20second%20infection.

Because that was the pertinent piece from my hypocritical example?

Just yesterday someone in here said it was ok to break social distancing guidelines because it was a state funeral of a public servant killed in the line of duty

However, "the shinners were only at a funeral of a shinner".

I await evidence the state funeral attendance gives immunity/prevents the spread of covid.

Both were wrong.

Funny enough, it's only this week I seen a political party try to score points of a family mourning, and someone's funeral.

McMurphy

markodaly wrote: »

They can be held to account as to why a Cork SF travelled all the way to Belfast for this jolly.

Held accountable by whom?

JohnnyFlash

markodaly wrote: »

They can be held to account as to why a Cork SF travelled all the way to Belfast for this jolly.

Members of the Tipperary cell of SF formed the guard of honour for Storey.

TheCitizen

Truthvader wrote: »

Nope want to call out the hypocrisy and Sinn Fein double think every time I see it

But just SF hypocrisy and double think while ignoring the hypocrisy of FFG representatives also not adhering to social distancing guidelines but pontificating about SF. :pac:

Amazing hypocrisy and lack of self awareness from FFG fans on here.

TheCitizen

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Members of the Tipperary cell of SF formed the guard of honour for Storey.

The "Tipperary cell", you know a lot about the detail of this funeral don't you Johnny, or are you just making it all up as you go along.

smurgen

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Members of the Tipperary cell of SF formed the guard of honour for Storey.

Meanwhile in Cork FFG had a tea party. Literally the same day.

https://twitter.com/CllrDesCahil/status/1277904797207801856?s=19

McMurphy

smurgen wrote: »

Meanwhile in Cork FFG had a tea party. Literally the same day.

https://twitter.com/CllrDesCahil/status/1277904797207801856?s=19

Des' photographer be like......

Sit over another meter there please horse. (That tables actually <14ft> across)

Colonel Claptrap

What sort of people pose for selfies in a graveyard during a funeral?

Pandemic aside, that's just weird.

dundalkfc10

Isnt it great.

The FFG crew now care about what happens in the 6 counties and what happens in the 26.

I thought it would take alot longer than this but the election result has pushed it along nicely.

FFG will next be singing
"Oh, can such hope be vain ?
When my dear country shall be made
A Nation once again!"

hatrickpatrick

Can we all just agree, SF supporters or opponents, that this was a moronic and stupid move for SF on many levels? For me it doesn't negate issues of policy and ideology and I certainly hope that's the case at the next election, but defending the indefensible is the kind of sh!te FFG get up to routinely, there's absolutely no need for the left to do the same. It was a mistake, it set a horrendous example, it will have knock on effects on for example 12th of July parades and it gave the opposition an absolutely massive cudgel to beat SF with for the next few weeks at the very least.

It was a stupid, stupid thing to do. As a new-found fan of SF I'm incredibly disappointed and I doubt I'm the only one. Having said all that, nothing means more to me than opposing neoliberalism in politics at the moment so they'll still get my support along with the rest of the Irish left in trying to smash the FFG cabal.

Truthvader

TheCitizen wrote: »

But just SF hypocrisy and double think while ignoring the hypocrisy of FFG representatives also not adhering to social distancing guidelines but pontificating about SF. :pac:

Amazing hypocrisy and lack of self awareness from FFG fans on here.

Read back. Not bothered at all by he social distancing argument on either side. It seems petty and pointless. Very bothered by the glorification and air brushing of a murdering thug and the reference to his "poor family" in circumstances where he was responsible for the malicious and deliberate destruction of so many other families in pursuit of whatever he wanted. If FF/ FG/PBP or the Greens were at the same thing I would call them out too. But they're not.

Hamsterchops

maccored wrote: »

Two different jurisdictions completely with two different sets of rules re: covid 19. thats not a loophole - its just another example of the stupidity of a border

Meanwhile in Scotland ...
Nicola Sturgeon is arguing the complete opposite, why have one juristiction and one set of rules on the same island when you can have two sets of everything (including Covid guidelines).

blanch152

smurgen wrote: »

Meanwhile in Cork FFG had a tea party. Literally the same day.

https://twitter.com/CllrDesCahil/status/1277904797207801856?s=19

Group of five sitting outside, compared to a funeral with a cast of what appears to be thousands?

Get up the yard with the silliness. Desperate attempts at point-scoring, deflection and whataboutery from the Sinn Fein defence brigade.

blanch152

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Can we all just agree, SF supporters or opponents, that this was a moronic and stupid move for SF on many levels? For me it doesn't negate issues of policy and ideology and I certainly hope that's the case at the next election, but defending the indefensible is the kind of sh!te FFG get up to routinely, there's absolutely no need for the left to do the same. It was a mistake, it set a horrendous example, it will have knock on effects on for example 12th of July parades and it gave the opposition an absolutely massive cudgel to beat SF with for the next few weeks at the very least.

It was a stupid, stupid thing to do. As a new-found fan of SF I'm incredibly disappointed and I doubt I'm the only one. Having said all that, nothing means more to me than opposing neoliberalism in politics at the moment so they'll still get my support along with the rest of the Irish left in trying to smash the FFG cabal.

The only thing I will say to you is that a lot of us told you so.

Sinn Fein are not to be trusted on anything. They are not to be trusted to obey public health guidelines, they are not to be trusted to obey the law, so why anyone would be mad enough to vote for them and trust them to keep their promises?

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

The only thing I will say to you is that a lot of us told you so.

Sinn Fein are not to be trusted on anything. They are not to be trusted to obey public health guidelines, they are not to be trusted to obey the law, so why anyone would be mad enough to vote for them and trust them to keep their promises?

This 'conviction' just in from the man who was looking for O'Neill to step aside while a police investigation takes place to see what restrictions were broken.

Why would she bother when she has been found guilty already in the Special Shinner Court of blanch.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

This 'conviction' just in from the man who was looking for O'Neill to step aside while a police investigation takes place to see what restrictions were broken.

Why would she bother when she has been found guilty already in the Special Shinner Court of blanch.

Instead of re-imagining what I said and re-inventing it as something else, why don't you address the point I made about trust in Sinn Fein.

By the way, that isn't the only example of Sinn Fein and its members disregard of the law.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Instead of re-imagining what I said and re-inventing it as something else, why don't you address the point I made about trust in Sinn Fein.

By the way, that isn't the only example of Sinn Fein and its members disregard of the law.

I don't trust ANY political party on this island. That is why I can criticise them from the get go if they handle something badly.

There are examples of every single party in this country disregarding the law.

Is it party policy of any of them...no, in my opinion.

Get down of the high horse, you are legendary at defending every single action of a particular party here. Who exactly do you think you are codding?

JohnnyFlash

I see Colum Eastwood from the SDLP has asked for O’Neill to stand aside during the police investigation.

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Pressure piling up on MON now and some are calling for the SF TD's to stay away from the Dail and quarantine.

https://www.thejournal.ie/dup-michelle-oneill-bobby-storey-funeral-5139268-Jul2020/

TheCitizen

Truthvader wrote: »

Read back. Not bothered at all by he social distancing argument on either side. It seems petty and pointless. Very bothered by the glorification and air brushing of a murdering thug and the reference to his "poor family" in circumstances where he was responsible for the malicious and deliberate destruction of so many other families in pursuit of whatever he wanted. If FF/ FG/PBP or the Greens were at the same thing I would call them out too. But they're not.

Ah so you're going to attack SF by cherry picking events from the conflict that ended after the GFA was implemented over 20 years ago. Same ould ding dong.

McMurphy

blanch152 wrote: »

Group of five sitting outside, compared to a funeral with a cast of what appears to be thousands?

Get up the yard with the silliness. Desperate attempts at point-scoring, deflection and whataboutery from the Sinn Fein defence brigade.

Yet Garda Horkans funeral had the same displays of social distancing guidelines being ignored by mourner's.

We know you like to apply rules and laws differently depending on who is or is not adhering to them, but this is a new level of silliness even from you.

hatrickpatrick

blanch152 wrote: »

The only thing I will say to you is that a lot of us told you so.

Sinn Fein are not to be trusted on anything. They are not to be trusted to obey public health guidelines, they are not to be trusted to obey the law, so why anyone would be mad enough to vote for them and trust them to keep their promises?

Because at least they're making them. FFG don't even hide the fact that they're slaves to free market neoliberalism. Taking a chance on a party which claims to oppose it is still the better gamble than voting for a party which 100% definitely supports it.

The "property as an investment tool as opposed to somewhere to live" paradigm has to be destroyed, or my generation will continue to suffer. FFG are very clearly fully on board with the "shafting the young so we can have a comfortable retirement" model of housing and Ireland needs an alternative.

FrancieBrady

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I see Colum Eastwood from the SDLP has asked for O’Neill to stand aside during the police investigation.

Colum putting his foot in it a lá Leo and getting called out over the breaches at an SDLP funeral a few weeks ago when the restrictions were tighter. Also for praising the BLM protests which broke the restrictions on multiple counts.

TheCitizen

jh79 wrote: »

Pressure piling up on MON now and some are calling for the SF TD's to stay away from the Dail and quarantine.

https://www.thejournal.ie/dup-michelle-oneill-bobby-storey-funeral-5139268-Jul2020/

Laughable stuff. She won't resign nor should she. If she does FFG politicians all over the place should fall on their swords. Dominic Cummings and Boris Johnson in Westminster, Arlene Foster in The North should already be gone for all sorts of misdemeanours far more damaging than the optics one at the funeral in Belfast.

A nice little storm in a teacup to distract from more important events. This is the sort of stuff that FFG will get up to to distract from their own inefficiencies in the incoming government, but sure what do we expect. This (FFG) is the cohort after all that have lead Irish governments for the last century while crucial areas like the Health Service and Housing have remained disorganised and not fit for purpose due to their (FFG's) inertia and constant failure to tackle these crucial issues.