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kub wrote: »

Would a Kona be regarded as a family car ?

It strikes me as something a Nun would drive around in, dare i say it but i would not like to be in one in a collision.

My sister was moving from a Hyundai ix35 to a Kona and didn't like the drive so got a Tucson instead.

But yeh I am sure they are going to be fine for policing work and high speed action.

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Any word on what could be replacing the i40s as I believe there no longer in production ?

I think there was something a few pages back about the new Peugeot 508?

Either way another ball of sh1te car that looks good and shiny on a new plate.

Silent Running

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Looks don't come into it. It could be a brick as long as it's up to the job.

Too small and too slow to be a patrol car.

The 1.6 Kona is actually quite nippy. According to answers to my post about space for the kit it'll only need to accommodate someone's hat, half of a first aid kit and a half empty bag of donuts.

Silent Running wrote: »

The 1.6 Kona is actually quite nippy. According to answers to my post about space for the kit it'll only need to accommodate someone's hat, half of a first aid kit and a half empty bag of donuts.

What are you talking about? I have never heard such crap in all my life!!!

It's not donuts.....Its a chicken fillet roll from the local service station!!!!

:D:D

Silent Running wrote: »

The 1.6 Kona is actually quite nippy. According to answers to my post about space for the kit it'll only need to accommodate someone's hat, half of a first aid kit and a half empty bag of donuts.

I that’s because they upgraded from the fiesta lol
The kona I was in, I was better getting out and running

California Dreamer wrote: »

I think there was something a few pages back about the new Peugeot 508?

Either way another ball of sh1te car that looks good and shiny on a new plate.

Uk is using them and they seem to be quite good.

POGAN

carzony wrote: »

I think they may just be a stop-gap until a larger purchase is made? similar to the avensis back in 2011.

It’s extra purchase offered to the ags

POGAN

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Any word on what could be replacing the i40s as I believe there no longer in production ?

Tuscon

kub

POGAN wrote: »

It’s extra purchase offered to the ags

Were they a gift from Hyundai ?

kub wrote: »

Were they a gift from Hyundai ?

No it was an optional add on for a lower cost.

bigdaddymac

so the kona is the new patrol car replacing the i30?

The i40 is being replaced by tuscon?

bigdaddymac wrote: »

so the kona is the new patrol car replacing the i30?

The i40 is being replaced by tuscon?

Tucson replacing i40, I don’t think they are phasing the i30s with konas, I stand to be corrected on that though

Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: »

Tucson replacing i40, I don’t think they are phasing the i30s with konas, I stand to be corrected on that though

i30s would be end of life mostly at this stage.
Will some of the Skoda tender be used for replacement too maybe.

Do much of the CAB seizures end up in specialist units?

POGAN

bigdaddymac wrote: »

so the kona is the new patrol car replacing the i30?

Yes

The i40 is being replaced by tuscon?

Yes

California Dreamer wrote: »

Do much of the CAB seizures end up in specialist units?

Nope only on the odd occasion, majority are resold and cash goes to the exchequer...obviously are court proceedings and the car is surrendered to the state.

kub

Just wondering, would AGS have carried out much of suitability test on all of the different makes and models that they have / had on the fleet during the Covid shut down?

kub wrote: »

Just wondering, would AGS have carried out much of suitability test on all of the different makes and models that they have / had on the fleet during the Covid shut down?

You mad, it's politics and what looks cheap on paper.....
They honestly could not care less.

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kub wrote: »

Just wondering, would AGS have carried out much of suitability test on all of the different makes and models that they have / had on the fleet during the Covid shut down?

Considering they are essentially support vehicles there would be no need to try them out before taking them in. They're not response vehicles.

BaronVon

Edit: I only realised you were asking about the rental vehicles, but I had it typed up already

kub wrote: »

Just wondering, would AGS have carried out much of suitability test on all of the different makes and models that they have / had on the fleet during the Covid shut down?

Here is the current tender awards. I've also attached the vehicle evaluation form, which is used by garda driving instructors.

That is one part of a weighted evaluation system, which is as follows:

Quality of the Service Proposal (200 marks available)

Tenderers must address each of the requirements mentioned in Section B of the award criteria and submit a detailed description of their proposed solutions including step-by-step details of the processes and procedures used, which demonstrates how the Goods/Service will be provided. A mere affirmative statement by the Tenderer that it can/will do so, or standard information leaflets or a reiteration of the Tender requirements is not sufficient in this regard.

Whole-Life Cost (800 marks available)

Methodology for calculating score for cost:

The lowest cost for each sub-criterion will receive the maximum score for that criterion. The costs submitted by other tenderers will receive a percentage score inversely proportional to the lowest price tender as follows:

Score = (Lowest Cost Tender ÷ Cost of Tender being evaluated) x Maximum Score Available

Example:
Tender A (€30,000) has lowest whole life cost for a standard vehicle. It gets the maximum score of 400. ((30,000 ÷ 30,000) x 400)
Tender B (€35,000) is marked: (30,000 ÷ 35,000) x 400 = 343
Tender C (€40,000) is marked: (30,000 ÷ 40,000) x 400 = 300

The tenderer with the highest combined score for all sub-criteria will be deemed to be the most economically advantageous for the cost part of the evaluation for each Lot.

Qualitative Vehicle Testing

Actually it appears there are no marks for the assessment of the vehicle, it's just a pass or fail, as to whether it meets the requirements.

For each separate lot the tender with the highest marks, calculated as above will be regarded as the lead tender.
The vehicle concerned will then be the subject of Qualitative Testing by An Garda Síochána, as set out in Attachment
6, unless it has already been shown to meet Garda requirements under the Qualitative Testing criteria.

If required, a Garda base vehicle as per the model tendered in any relevant Lot must be supplied for testing within 6 weeks of being requested.
Failure to provide such a vehicle within this timeframe will result in your tender being eliminated at that point.

The winning tender in each band shall be the lead tender which meets all requirements of the qualitative testing.

If the vehicle is deemed suitable for operational requirements, it will be purchased and retained.

If the vehicle fails to meet the requirements under any of the Qualitative Testing criteria, it shall be eliminated from the competition, and the tender with the next highest marks shall become the lead tender.

If the vehicle is deemed unsuitable for operational requirements, it shall be returned to the supplier and decommissioned as a Garda vehicle at no cost to An Garda Síochána.
A certificate of decommission shall be supplied to An Garda Síochána to this effect.

All vehicles presented for testing will be put onto the Garda fleet and insurance will be covered by the State in respect of all claims for injury, loss or damage.

source

BaronVon wrote: »

Edit: I only realised you were asking about the rental vehicles, but I had it typed up already

Here is the current tender awards. I've also attached the vehicle evaluation form, which is used by garda driving instructors.

That is one part of a weighted evaluation system, which is as follows:

Quality of the Service Proposal (200 marks available)

Whole-Life Cost (800 marks available)

Qualitative Vehicle Testing

Actually it appears there are no marks for the assessment of the vehicle, it's just a pass or fail, as to whether it meets the requirements.

Thanks for posting that, it was very informative.

Given that these are public tenders, does anyone know if the submitted tenders are available anywhere. I would be very vinterested to see what Hyundai's competition was for the last tender.

Saw a Kona in the flesh....Aw bless!!!

California Dreamer wrote: »

Saw a Kona in the flesh....Aw bless!!!

Was in one today..... in a chase....hahaha a tree intervened and helped us, a one litre was actually pulling away from us

Mac Man

He's not giving up his 7 series for the time being !!!

Mac Man

The 192 Lexus was brought in for the former Tanaiste. ( who is now looking to retain his security status) It is part of the protection fleet.
L&P decided to hold over for the new Taoiseach when the election was called.
It was sent to the Aras for viewing by the current resident, with a view to him possible getting the "Presidential " version of same.

ratracer

Those Kona’s really are an appalling looking bucket of crap, possibly the worst car I’ve seen AGS given since the fiesta’s a few years ago.
Whoever decided these were a suitable vehicle for any aspect of policing needs a serious kick in the hole, or at the very least, ordered to spend a month as a tag along with the people who are actually expected to use them!

Ugliest looking mofo on the road them are....