Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Simply pointing out that masks could be mandatory, yes teachers could be told that they have to wear them (bar exemptions) but that they cannot be told NOT to wear them. I think a lot of teachers would welcome mandatory PPE but if that directive is not forthcoming then they should make their own personal choice on it and be allowed to do that.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Report the post so if you feel so strongly about it. Easy to know you aren't a teacher if you think that some principals don't tightly control and rule their schools.
Higgins5473 wrote: » hang on, the post I quoted stated "they can", now "of course they can, if..." a load of "if's". what nonsense. there are no certain definite directives or circulars YET, I even put that in capitals to emphasise it. so talking about what principals and BOM's can or cannot do at present is pointless because at present there are more questions than answers.
Higgins5473 wrote: » No, they can not. Opinion on facemasks is divided right up to the top of WHO and CDC. As it stands, a principal and BOM of any school in Ireland are probably at the lowest possible point of direction in terms of teachers wearing masks or any type of PPE as there is there is absolutely no directive on this YET. These type of posts should be reported and deleted, totally misleading and untruthful.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Of course they can, if PPE is made mandatory for teaching staff (other than those exempt) then yes they can be told that they must wear it. It's already mandatory in hospitals, healthcare settings, hairdressers/barbers/beauticians, public transport, amongst many other workplaces. If health advice deems that teachers must wear face masks well then that's what will be done. But it hasn't been made mandatory and based on the guidelines it's unlikely to be mandatory, equally teachers who choose to wear masks won't be banned from doing this either. So it will be down to individual choice whether a teacher wears a mask or not.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » The choice to wear a face mask (unless you're somewhere where its actually mandatory protocol to wear one) is a choice that people can make and have been making all for themselves. Principal won't tell you not to wear one, they can tell you that you have to wear one depending on the circumstances but they cannot ban the wearing of face masks by teachers.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » We may not have a choice in the matter depending on the BoM and/or principal.
The HorsesMouth wrote: » What is it with this country and putting a list of rules as long as your arm in place regardless of how it might actually work? Just to tick a box! All schools are back in France with no requirement for social distancing..why can't we do the same? And just as a btw I am a primary school teacher.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Children won't be wearing masks (unless their parents choose to put them on them). Teachers should wear whatever they like and not wait to be told.
byhookorbycrook wrote: » Masks shouldn’t be an issue for children- they should see their parents wearing them in the meantime, after all. I really, really want to get back to being in the same room as my students , but I will be wearing a mask and a visor . It would be a very foolish principal/ BOM that would direct staff , be they teachers , SNAs / ancillary staff not to wear a mask .
wirelessdude01 wrote: » I would be pretty sure that quite a few boards will issue 'rules' to their teachers not allowing the use of PPE in their school. This will be under the guise of not causing anxiousness to the children.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Just wait and see it happening. Friendly or funny won't be enough to get around it.
khalessi wrote: » Possibly but there are friendly masks you can get. I got some nice ones and I put surgical masks inside them so they are safe and non threatening. or clear masks like thishttps://www.theclearmask.com/product
Hubertj wrote: » Kieran Christie?
khalessi wrote: » I would rather them say, teachers just wear masks and everyone back to school in September
khalessi wrote: » He???
Hubertj wrote: » What qualifications does some teacher have to question and doubt guidance provided by public health officials? None because he is a teacher, not a doctor, not a scientist but a teacher.
khalessi wrote: » It is unions job to look after the health and safety of their workers. Are you sying they are wrong? Hold off union ire for the moment
khalessi wrote: » No you didnt because ppe and health and safety procedures were followed, in areas that worked through without having to be asked for it but many here and in public are like, oooh teachers moaning. Like every other wkorforce they, are entitled to follow health and safety protocols, as you well know.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » The guidelines are extremely detailed and appear to be in line with what we've seen so far in terms of precautions. Will be interesting to see what the union demands but they'd do well to read the public appetite for such moves. As it stands teachers will already be back to work after the final phase of lifting restrictions. Plenty of people have been working throughout and certainly the wheels of the economy have well and truly started to turn again. Minority of people now not back to work at this stage, did we see union outcry and strikes in any other sector throughout the lockdown here? Nope can't say that we did, they should listen to their members but should also remember that every single person in the country has had to make adjustments.
